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What nobody says about startup moms

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Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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Can we also talk about men getting divorced after a startup failure or prolonged 'death valley' period? Startup is always risky for anyone regardless of gender and that is why not many people take the risk. I mean if the job sucks, and you can't afford it then don't do it. There is always an alternative option if you possess the skill set to succeed in startup scene. Applies both to men and women.

>Can we also talk about men

Absolutely, submit an article and we'll discuss it there.

Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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> It also helps to remember that "they grow up so fast" is cliche, but it's true. The most demanding early years of child raising fly by quickly. It blew my mind when I heard someone say "kids are only toddlers for a couple of years". As a kid you feel like childhood lasts an eternity, and their developmental stages are so significant, but in comparison they spend less time at each phase (infant, toddler, little kid,…

It's horrifying as a parent who used to think and act like a child, to see someone who used to be completely dependent upon you, give you unconditional love and beg for your attention, suddenly transform into an independent human being capable of all sorts of things, without your approval even. The older they get the faster they progress. Soon they'll even host their own diner parties. And the constant worries of bec…

Kids are the only people in your life the longer you know them, the less you know them.

Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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Kids are a distraction to intense work. At the same time, becoming a parent is a potential growth experience that is unrivaled and brings value. Healthy kids are a value to society. Non-parents benefit from a society full of healthy children. Parents should be rewarded--or at least equally as compensated--with pay and/or status that tracks with the successes those unburdened with parenting achieve.

I think one thing the aristocracy got right was that your children are a reflection of you as a parent. That seems to have been lost nowadays in the US. Nowadays, a problem kid is due to video games, school, peers, you name it. No, it's the parent, 95% of the time. But we let the parents off with they did their best..but did they?

While I agree with you that it's mostly the parents, I think we poorly equip and support parents. Many have had poor role models to begin with and without external influence are doomed to repeat history. Support for parents is quite poor IMO and should be massively increased. Unfortunately, our society requires children to continue the next generation but we seem to value child-less people more (in our rewards to them).

Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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By garbage time, I mean I can't productively use the time I'm spending being responsible for the kid to do any involved task. I'm not saying I interact with the kid the whole time, but I have to keep an eye on the toddler to make sure they're not hurting themselves, or more likely, the toddler is pestering me to play with them. They play with their own toys and pots and pans for a few minutes, but it's not long befor…

"but it's not long before they see you on the laptop or whatever and want to get up in your lap." And do you feel, you always have to obey to your childs wishes? Don't you think it is important to learn for them,to respect other peoples wishes, too? It is an ongoing struggle, of course, but after I started to pay more attention to my needs and be consequent about it, even if he goes hysterical - it became a lot easie…

I don’t necessarily obey them, but I find it difficult to work when a toddler is going crazy around you.

Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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One parent serves as redundancy for the other. I don’t know how you did it, but when we had just one baby/toddler, and no other kids or relatives to watch them, one adult is constantly watching the kid, and the other is taking care of household tasks. The person watching the kid looks like they have spare time, but it’s garbage time because your attention is diverted to the kid every couple minutes or less.

", one adult is constantly watching the kid, and the other is taking care of household tasks" I know I can't do any deep work, when it is my turn to watch our toddler - but I am very capable of doing household related tasks, etc. And I also have to say, without trying to impose it, but I know this from other parents and sometimes from myself: you definitely can give too much attention to a child - unless you want the…

I can do some household tasks, but I was referring to work that requires concentration and no interruptions.

Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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post #147

Kids are a distraction to intense work. At the same time, becoming a parent is a potential growth experience that is unrivaled and brings value. Healthy kids are a value to society. Non-parents benefit from a society full of healthy children. Parents should be rewarded--or at least equally as compensated--with pay and/or status that tracks with the successes those unburdened with parenting achieve.

> Healthy kids are a value to society

Kids have a massive carbon footprint and are probably the worst thing the average person in a first world country can do to the environment.

Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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post #147

Kids are a distraction to intense work. At the same time, becoming a parent is a potential growth experience that is unrivaled and brings value. Healthy kids are a value to society. Non-parents benefit from a society full of healthy children. Parents should be rewarded--or at least equally as compensated--with pay and/or status that tracks with the successes those unburdened with parenting achieve.

> Kids are a distraction to intense work. For what it's worth, I've done my most intense productive work after having children.

Kind of a post hoc ergo propter hoc situation.

Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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post #147

Kids are a distraction to intense work. At the same time, becoming a parent is a potential growth experience that is unrivaled and brings value. Healthy kids are a value to society. Non-parents benefit from a society full of healthy children. Parents should be rewarded--or at least equally as compensated--with pay and/or status that tracks with the successes those unburdened with parenting achieve.

> Healthy kids are a value to society Kids have a massive carbon footprint and are probably the worst thing the average person in a first world country can do to the environment.

> Kids have a massive carbon footprint and are probably the worst thing a person in the first world can do to the environment.

This is true in exactly the same broken sense of value “to the environment” that mass murder (especially of the young and rich) is the best thing one can do to the environment.

Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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One of the biggest issue with all this is "We lost the community in the pursuit of individuality". It takes a village to raise a child. I grew up in kind a commune. Most of the days kids would be on the streets playing, eat / sleep in their neighbours house. Moms were able to manage house as stay at home moms (hardest yet under-appreciated job) relatively better because of this community care provided for children. E…

Cities dwellers lose out on such things Depends on the environment. I grew up in a city, but your first paragraph matches my childhood pretty well. Our neighborhood was a cluster of short, twisty streets, with narrow roads and broad sidewalks. Our street had about 40 houses/apartments (mixed zone), and at least 10 of those had school-going children. In my street, I was one of the oldest so I mostly played with a few…

One thing that doesn't help at all: cars. I grew up riding bikes and skating on our street. The street was almost entirely free of parked cars. That same street now would have a dozen parked cars most days. Some houses will have a car or two in their driveway and another couple on the street. All of those cars reduce visibility to the point that I wouldn't let my kids play unsupervised on that street - risk of a car reversing out, of the kids riding out of a driveway into a passing car, of a skateboard hitting a parked car, etc.

Despite our best efforts, our kids are largely oblivious to the danger of cars. I don't know what's changed on that front.

Re: What nobody says about startup moms

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> Healthy kids are a value to society Kids have a massive carbon footprint and are probably the worst thing the average person in a first world country can do to the environment.

> Kids have a massive carbon footprint and are probably the worst thing a person in the first world can do to the environment. This is true in exactly the same broken sense of value “to the environment” that mass murder (especially of the young and rich) is the best thing one can do to the environment.

Yeah, see, there’s a shocking proliferation of really misguided ideas on this topic. It’s fascinating.
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