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Software jobs are low status. We live in a bubble and respect good hackers but normies don't like nerds. Hollywood portrays us between weirdo and pervert, while glorifying lawyers and doctors.
That has a lot more to do with personality than career. If you’re an irritating know-it-all weirdo, people aren’t going to like you regardless of your job. I’ve known engineers like that that, but most people I know and work with are normal people and are respected.
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Software jobs are low status. We live in a bubble and respect good hackers but normies don't like nerds. Hollywood portrays us between weirdo and pervert, while glorifying lawyers and doctors.
That has a lot more to do with personality than career. If you’re an irritating know-it-all weirdo, people aren’t going to like you regardless of your job. I’ve known engineers like that that, but most people I know and work with are normal people and are respected.
Sounds like lawyers and doctors (or plenty of people really).
> weirdo
That is a bit of a stereotype. I suspect a large percentage of software jobs are filled by standard people. The weirdos do stand out, but I don’t know anyone who actually fits the Hollywood stereotype.
And weirdo be replaced by equally socially unacceptable traits (arrogant or closed-minded etcetera) that apply to doctors and lawyers.
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#243Journalism has become such a tough field. I know a number of people who do OK in it. But I know a whole lot more who do writing-related stuff for companies that sell products.
Meh -- they've done themselves such harm in recent years by embracing activism and deliberate bias that it's hard for me to feel too bad for the industry. That said, I'll applaud whichever journalists are brave enough to start pushing their industry/art back towards objectivity and diversity of perspective.
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#244> Lurching west in stop-and-go traffic on I-80 that morning, bound for Berkeley and a day of delivering in the rain, I had a low moment, dwelling on how far I’d come down in the world. Then I snapped out of it. I haven’t come down in the world. What’s come down in the world is the business model that sustained Time Inc. for decades. I’m pretty much the same writer, the same guy. I haven’t gone anywhere. My feet are t…
If company has huge billion dollar profits, then they don't pay well. This is pure greed and exploitation. They get great value out of their employees but they don't share it amongst them. They share just enough so they don't look too bad to an untrained eye.
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Jobs like what? The only ones I can think of are ones which suddenly started paying a lot due to some market quirk (e.g. miners in Australia in the 2010s). Class expectations just take a while to catch up (or never do if the market quirk doesn't persist).
Software jobs are low status. We live in a bubble and respect good hackers but normies don't like nerds. Hollywood portrays us between weirdo and pervert, while glorifying lawyers and doctors.
If you work in software people think it’s cool.
It maybe was low status 20 years ago, but since 2010 or so it’s changed.
Even in NYC the finance people prefer to talk about their app ideas rather than admit they work at a bank.
Compare that to someone who drives for Amazon - the cultural status is not the same.
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#246Journalism has become such a tough field. I know a number of people who do OK in it. But I know a whole lot more who do writing-related stuff for companies that sell products.
Meh -- they've done themselves such harm in recent years by embracing activism and deliberate bias that it's hard for me to feel too bad for the industry. That said, I'll applaud whichever journalists are brave enough to start pushing their industry/art back towards objectivity and diversity of perspective.
I could start an online paper about my local town and write purely objective stories. "Town council meeting today went as expected, complicated issue without clear solution continued unsolved". That probably won't get very many readers though. For one thing, relatively few people live in my town so few people will care. For another, the internet has conditioned people to get news for free, so the only way to monetize results in getting very little money (e.g. ads) from each reader, and, as just established, we'll have few readers because the town is small.
The revealed preference of news readers is to look at outrageous stuff and polemics. Get involved in a culture war about who did what why and what it means - that could attract millions of readers who you can slightly monetize to earn enough to get by. Do real journalism and few people will read it and they won't pay you won't for it... So...
I'm not saying this in a judgmental way. I don't pay for news either. I read what comes up on twitter, hackernews, linked to by friends, etc. I have an ad-blocker and I skip whatever content has a paywall that I can't bypass. I realize I'm part of the problem, but in a "tragedy of the commons" way. That is, the world would be better if everyone paid for and paid attention to primarily local and "hard-hitting" fair journalism, but there would be zero perceptible positive change if I switched to that model and perceptible negative costs for me for doing so.
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> My news this week is full of stories of employers who cannot find enough labor. If someone said this about employment in software dev there'd be a thousand comments about how there isn't a shortage of labor, just of labor at the price point businesses want to pay.
This is true for almost all labor "shortages" when there is anything less than full employment. If you struggle to find workers at a given wage, you're not paying enough. It's not like the world is out of people.
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#248The world has more than enough journalists and exceptionally few reporters.
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#249The world has more than enough journalists and exceptionally few reporters.
Completely wrong. Actually, there’s an iceberg effect at play here. There are many more reporters than journalists, delivering pure news every day, doing in-depth reporting. And it makes sense logically: the number of people who have large enough audiences to generate an income by simply being controversial is rather small in the large scheme of things.
That is neither journalism, nor reporting. That is editorial.
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Completely wrong. Actually, there’s an iceberg effect at play here. There are many more reporters than journalists, delivering pure news every day, doing in-depth reporting. And it makes sense logically: the number of people who have large enough audiences to generate an income by simply being controversial is rather small in the large scheme of things.
people who have large enough audiences to generate an income by simply being controversial That is neither journalism, nor reporting. That is editorial.