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Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by captn3m0 »

panarky wrote: post #238
captn3m0 wrote: post #73

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Twitter fought a court battle on this in India just a few months ago[a], [b]. The government even threatened Twitter Execs with jail time[0], [1]. Making this worse are the new Information Technology (Intermediary Guidelines and Digital Media Ethics Code) Rules, 2021 (the “Intermediary Rules”)[3]. Among the many issues, they increase obligations on large social media platforms (above 5e5 users), enforce government ta…

If Twitter obeys the government's order and censors tweets critical of the government, while tweets about the censorship are still visible, then the Streisand Effect will amplify the message that the government is trying to suppress.

Usually yes, but Indian government’a propaganda machine is strong. Heck, if you open Twitter’s COVID timeline (which they feature heavily), it only shows official tweets from the Government on COVID.

All of them downplaying the pandemic, praising the handling, and painting a rosy picture.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by holler »

ttt0 wrote: post #127
holler wrote: post #114

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> ...to be the arbiter of what you should or should not see instead. I can understand the tendency if there's a business behind it, maybe they don't want the homepage to be filled with polarizing, divisive, or nsfw content etc. But I do like the idea of letting users decide what they'd like to see other than on the homepage, where I would be Ok with some default filters. Maybe they can be disabled for the inclined.

Twitter doesn't have a homepage. It's just log in / sign up.

I wonder if that's by design? without careful curation it could be an abomination

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by mrtksn »

fakedang wrote: post #234
mrtksn wrote: post #190

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Okay, what's the expectation here? Twitter fixing the "wrong choice" the Indians made in 2014? That doesn't sound like a democracy to me either. IMHO, if that's the case Indians need to get a new government and fight their own wars. Why would Twitter be liberating the Indian people? If anything, that "liberation" would come at a cost just as with the USSR liberating Germany from the Nazis, US liberating Iraqi people…

Because Twitter wasn't breaking any laws. Twitter should not be policing content because none of the people posting on it were breaking any laws either. The only laws Twitter was breaking was a skewed interpretation of a British Era law for which the Indian government is twisting the definition of treason.

>skewed interpretation of a British Era law for which the Indian government is twisting the definition of treason.

There you have it. It’s not up to the companies to police, enforce or interpret laws. That’s the states job and if that’s how they interpret it then that’s how the law is. There are other tools to change laws or interpretations.

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Post by throwawaysea »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #132
root_axis wrote: post #123

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I don't understand your point. Murdering children is an unequicoval act of heinous evil, deleting posts from your website is a shady business decision.

Where do you draw the line? Lots of people would say that heavily silencing government criticism is evil. Not heinous evil, but can't we be mad at boring evil?

But this isn't "heavily silencing government criticism". Only 50ish tweets were blocked, for containing misinformation that was intended to cause a panic. That's illegal per Indian laws. Criticizing the government is not illegal, and is allowed. If the government were really "heavily silencing government criticism", we would be seeing millions of tweets and accounts being blocked and censored. Instead, it's a narrow targeted set that did things like use images from other circumstances to make it seem like they were part of the COVID situation.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

throwawaysea wrote: post #244
Dylan16807 wrote: post #132

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Where do you draw the line? Lots of people would say that heavily silencing government criticism is evil. Not heinous evil, but can't we be mad at boring evil?

But this isn't "heavily silencing government criticism". Only 50ish tweets were blocked, for containing misinformation that was intended to cause a panic. That's illegal per Indian laws. Criticizing the government is not illegal, and is allowed. If the government were really "heavily silencing government criticism", we would be seeing millions of tweets and accounts being blocked and censored. Instead, it's a narrow…

I'm not really focused on this incident, but the idea that it can be a serious issue for major platforms to control speech.

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Post by fakedang »

mrtksn wrote: post #243
fakedang wrote: post #234

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Because Twitter wasn't breaking any laws. Twitter should not be policing content because none of the people posting on it were breaking any laws either. The only laws Twitter was breaking was a skewed interpretation of a British Era law for which the Indian government is twisting the definition of treason.

>skewed interpretation of a British Era law for which the Indian government is twisting the definition of treason. There you have it. It’s not up to the companies to police, enforce or interpret laws. That’s the states job and if that’s how they interpret it then that’s how the law is. There are other tools to change laws or interpretations.

Last time I checked, it's the court's job to interpret laws, not the legislature's. And from recent past precedent, we know that the courts haven't interpreted the sedition law the way the government has, yet the Modi government does not give a rats ass and continues to trample over them.

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Post by sinyug »

skinkestek wrote: post #240
sinyug wrote: post #213

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> If the Indian state was forcing Twitter to delete the profiles of anyone who is a homosexual, would you agree that Twitter should just adapt to local laws and not at least say something? You might want to pick another example to make your point. Persecution of homosexuals is a Christian (and, to an extent, Islamic) phenomenon. Historically, Hindus haven't really cared[1] about homosexual behavior till the British c…

> Persecution of homosexuals is a Christian (and, to an extent, Islamic) phenomenon. Can we please stop pretending that Christianity is worse than other religions? As already mentioned by another numerous well known examples of other groups of people exist who punish homosexuality by death today (leaving out names as I'm not trying to not continue a flame war here, I'm not out to criticize any other religion or cultu…

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Post by hntroll666 »

hntroll666 wrote: post #216
colinmhayes wrote: post #155

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Because people are idiots and would be swayed by hannity sound bites even though the story has nothing to do with Joe?

If that's what you really think, I guess it's an indication of how well the story was suppressed. Does the part where Hunter explained that the long-standing arrangement was for Joe to get half of the loot ring a bell?

I've noticed that the people who disagree with me are much better at clicking the downvote button than they are at clicking reply and explaining why they disagree.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by nemothekid »

hntroll666 wrote: post #216
colinmhayes wrote: post #155

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Because people are idiots and would be swayed by hannity sound bites even though the story has nothing to do with Joe?

If that's what you really think, I guess it's an indication of how well the story was suppressed. Does the part where Hunter explained that the long-standing arrangement was for Joe to get half of the loot ring a bell?

>Does the part where Hunter explained that the long-standing arrangement was for Joe to get half of the loot ring a bell?

Again, it doesn't matter? Joe ultimately decided remove the corrupt prosecutor that was helping Burisma. He fucked over Burisma, and their "investment" into Hunter.

Burisma may have tried to pull some nepotism by hiring Hunter, Joe ultimately said "no thanks, Jack", and fucked over Hunter. So the story is... Joe Biden doesn't take bribes?

Given how inconsequential, or rather how the whole story paints Joe in a good light, the media suppression probably has to do more with the fact that the contents of Hunter's laptop were so obviously hacked and Giuliani painted an incredibly elaborate story to try and prove how he "legitimately" got these documents.

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Post by ttt0 »

nemothekid wrote: post #249
hntroll666 wrote: post #216

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If that's what you really think, I guess it's an indication of how well the story was suppressed. Does the part where Hunter explained that the long-standing arrangement was for Joe to get half of the loot ring a bell?

> Does the part where Hunter explained that the long-standing arrangement was for Joe to get half of the loot ring a bell? Again, it doesn't matter? Joe ultimately decided remove the corrupt prosecutor that was helping Burisma. He fucked over Burisma, and their "investment" into Hunter. Burisma may have tried to pull some nepotism by hiring Hunter, Joe ultimately said "no thanks, Jack", and fucked over Hunter. So the…

> Hunter's laptop were so obviously hacked

It wasn't hacked, that crackhead left his laptop in a repair shop and just forgot about it.

> Joe Biden doesn't take bribes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xXx0yUvSw

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