ah, the way they handle images is just lamentable - go take a look at joplin, free and good enough. That Notesnook app looks good too, fast and slick, but they're gouging you on the price and unclear on who they're selling your info to...
Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
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Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to belabor the "startup" debate but they actually do discuss growth goals on the blog: "We don't want to speak for you, but we're sure you've felt it: Ever notice how your favorite applications seem to get slower over time? That's no coincidence. They call that "growth". It happens because panicked teams were frantically trying to throw more functions at what was a good idea for some stupid business goal. And a g…
Hmm, I don't interpret that to be a statement about the growth of the user base or revenue, but about not adding new features to the product?
True but they are describing the two as related. I took it to mean they are able to avoid addressing a stream of half-baked feature requests precisely because they are not banking on an exponentially growing user base. If skipping or postponing a new feature causes them to miss a few users, so be it.
Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
#243I used Standard Notes paid for over a year, and switched to Obsidian recently. My experience with SN was that the editors are half fleshed out, incompatible with each other, and make it hard to use with other tools. The notes can be markdown, html, text, or other formats as well as being encrypted. This makes exporting very annoying to use. Contrast to other tools like obsidian.. it’s just markdown. I can sync it acr…
Obsidian looks cool, but there's no web version? One thing I really like about SN is that it's in the cloud.
Maybe try Roam Research if you want cloud based notes. The fact that there's no cloud based functionality in Obsidian is one of the major reasons why I chose it though.
Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
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I use the web version and it's great, no install or anything (obviously need internet access).
> obviously need internet access Yea because no one ever needs to access their notes anywhere with bad/no connection.
If you are doing it in your browser it does have offline storage if you stay logged in.
Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Embedding of images is pretty much file linking. It can display and let you intract with images inline, but that may not be up to your requirement. 2. Same as above, except playback will require a plugin. 3. Absolutely! Tables are fully supported, with automatic formatting and formulae and lots more. This is one of the strong areas of org-mode. 4. You can get bold, italic, monospaced varieties inline, with minimal…
I understand what you're saying wrt to rtf versus text but I completely disagree and I say this as somebody who used to have all of my notes in thousands of plain text files. I've never felt like rich text editor's have gotten in my way, I can start immediately typing into a note in Evernote without ever feeling like the rich text somehow hinders my ability to be able to quickly transfer my thoughts. For you, as you'…
> I like the ability to be able to copy code blocks from programs like visual studio and web storm knowing that I can preserve the color scheme and monospaced font. It makes readability great.
org-babel allows this, with added ability to (optionally) execute and see and interact with output inline.
> Evernote also lets me link notes to each other and can even do some interesting auto related suggestions for notes that are similar in context as well as allowing me to tag notes in addition to putting them in a traditional folder like hierarchy.
Fully supported via org-roam, with added bonus of backlinks.
> When I want to make a note about remembering how to perform some complicated task in Photoshop (for example) I might make a quick animation as a gif file and I want to see it animated and embedded in the note.
This is a pretty nifty workflow, and I admit a useful one. I am not sure if gifs can be viewed inline withing Emacs, but so far I haven't seen nor tried, so this is a definite shortcoming.
> Another key priority for me is set up and ease-of-use,
Emacs is absolute horrific experience here. It is a terrible match for anyone looking to setup and start in under 5 minutes, especially because it is wildly different from anything you might have come across.
> You said that you used Evernote in the past, I'm honestly curious why you abandoned it
Evernote, way when I used it was still pretty cool. It allowed saving whole webpages directly, and linking them inside notes. But for a broke student from not-so-rich country, its free tier of 60MB ran out very very quickly. Paid tiers were prohibively expensive as $1 meant a day's sustenance or more. I also had a crappy laptop and Evernote wasn't the fastest thing around. It also forced me to think in terms of Notebooks and hierarchy. The notes and notebooks are also not so easily greppable. The UI of Evernote, its biggest strength during on boarding, became crippling for me. As for why kicked it for me in the end is, as you mentioned, single commerical entity ultimately controlling my collected knowledge and its structure. I am personally not comfortable putting thousands of hours of work so someone else can control it. I also write my journal in org-mode, with detailed analysis of social interactions (I'm not good at people, if its not clear by now :)) and I don't want anybody but me taking a peek.
Fortunately, Evernote works for you! And thanks to detailed requirements, someone might refer this conversation in future and make an informed decision based on it, as I once did :)
Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
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When I tried the joplin app 9 months ago, the mobile app on iOS was just plain broken. As far as E2EE note apps with mobile and desktop apps that sync go when I last looked in 2020, you have Standard Notes, Joplin, Inkdrop, Amplenote, Day One and DevonThink. I tried out Inkdrop seriously, but it wasn't better enough for me to switch and was more expensive than standard notes. A lot of these apps are $5/month, and I f…
For Joplin, review the sync settings. Sorry I forget which one it is but on iOS there was a bad default and once you change it the mobile app works like a dream.
Sync settings in the iOS or on the desktop app?
Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
#247I used Standard Notes paid for over a year, and switched to Obsidian recently. My experience with SN was that the editors are half fleshed out, incompatible with each other, and make it hard to use with other tools. The notes can be markdown, html, text, or other formats as well as being encrypted. This makes exporting very annoying to use. Contrast to other tools like obsidian.. it’s just markdown. I can sync it acr…
I did the exact same swap recently. Obsidian is far superior. I even paid for the 5 year Standard Notes subscription as I believed in the project and assumed design improvements would come, but the editor experience never improved and just feels clunky.
Same here. I'm unlikely to renew. I'm now using Joplin and synchronizing it to a small Nginx WebDAV server, which I back up to Rsync.net using Borg. It's certainly "cloud" enough for me. But too involved and technical for most people.
Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
#248Does it offer free sync among devices?
If I write somethin on the Andeoid app, does my Linux desktop client instantly reflect the change?
How is it different from Simplenote?
Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t know much about TS/Yarn, but is this really all the dependencies they have? https://github.com/standardnotes/desktop/blob/develop/yarn.l... That’s pretty insane if so. Especially for a “simple” note taking app.
That's the transitive closure of their dependencies, yes. This file contains their list of direct dependencies (which is a lot smaller, but that just tells you how much of a dependency explosion you get when you use `npm` packages): https://github.com/standardnotes/desktop/blob/develop/packag... One thing to note is the yarn.lock is probably the transitive closure of the compile-time dependencies (`devDependencies`)…
Thanks! I definitely learned a thing or two from your comment.
Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work
#250Standard Notes is a phenomenal note taking app and one of the first to bring encryption in note taking. They take security very seriously and have multiple third party audits. With that said, the bad outweigh the good. I don't mean to be a pessimist here (SN is inspirational) but: 1. Their free plan is extremely lacking. You can't even try out many of their editors. 2. Their pro plan mostly only offers editors. I am…
Looks like Notesnook doesn't support tree folder organization? And it's out.