PHP in 2021

Post by lnenad » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 1:01 PM UTC

simion314 wrote: post #168

lnenad wrote: post #156

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You can also do it in one golang file. Or one python file. Or one nodejs file. With PHP you have more moving parts, Apache/Nginx with their configuration and then the PHP script. With golang/rust/python/nodejs you have direct access to the webserver and more control, but the same simplicity.

>With PHP you have more moving parts, Apache/Nginx with their configuration and then the PHP script. With golang/rust/python/nodejs you have direct access to the webserver and more control, but the same simplicity. From my limited node experience I had to setup Nginx too and then connect it with node, and setup some manager like "pm" to keep the things running. When people say PHP is simple to setup they mean the cus…

Post by cutler » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 1:06 PM UTC

anonymoushn wrote: post #94

ashton314 wrote: post #66

Before you call me a troll, know that I worked with PHP for two+ years maintaining both legacy codebases and writing new code with Laravel. My question is: why would anyone want to start something new with PHP in 2021? Is there anything that it does better than any other language/ecosystem? I feel like the community is full of (but not exclusively composed of—there are some gems like Caleb Porzio who write good stuff…

So, one reason to use PHP instead of Ruby is that you will need 100x fewer servers. When you need 100x fewer servers you might also need 100% fewer devops people.

Post by robotron » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 1:21 PM UTC

akoncius wrote: post #185

ashton314 wrote: post #66

Before you call me a troll, know that I worked with PHP for two+ years maintaining both legacy codebases and writing new code with Laravel. My question is: why would anyone want to start something new with PHP in 2021? Is there anything that it does better than any other language/ecosystem? I feel like the community is full of (but not exclusively composed of—there are some gems like Caleb Porzio who write good stuff…

> that I worked with PHP for two+ years maintaining both legacy codebases and writing new code with Laravel. might seem like trolling, but from what I've seen, Laravel encourages bad developer practices such as static code etc, while Symfony encourages good OOP practices. so Laravel in itself is attracting specific audience with different priorities than Symfony, so it may explain your main complaint about PHP code w…

Post by repox » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 1:29 PM UTC

ashton314 wrote: post #66

Before you call me a troll, know that I worked with PHP for two+ years maintaining both legacy codebases and writing new code with Laravel. My question is: why would anyone want to start something new with PHP in 2021? Is there anything that it does better than any other language/ecosystem? I feel like the community is full of (but not exclusively composed of—there are some gems like Caleb Porzio who write good stuff…

Post by cutler » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 1:31 PM UTC

gremlinsinc wrote: post #219

sdfhbdf wrote: post #143

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You say > medium quality framework with many flaws Yet you only point out > you can't autocomplete normally with an IDE > You won't see methods that you may call Firstly if there are "many flaws" list them because it seems you only don't like the developer experience with the autocomplete. I noticed no problem with browsing the Laravel API [0] with my short adventure with it. > framework is 10-100 times slower than o…

> Laravel is not the top pick for highly-concurrent idempotent microservice on Kubernetes, Taylor Otwell would like to introduce you to Larvel Octane, i.e. support for swoole/workerman with 6k+ reqs per seq on a basic desktop. Laravel with swoole basically makes it as performant as elixir/phoenix.