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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by jtbayly »

estaseuropano wrote: post #167
xoa wrote: post #70

Wow, what an awesome dive into some of the technical aspects behind one of my favorite tools for using the web. And I do think of it that way these days, it's fairly stunning on some sites to switch off all the block and see how they become genuinely unbrowsable. I remember seeing Gorhill discuss a few times over the years some of the reqs for uBO during certain times (like why it could no longer work with Safari fol…

I guess the issue with proxying is that the ad provider has less control/data and can't be sure whether views are genuine.

That’s great if you’re right, because it means it is a fundamental limitation that can’t easily be worked around.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by gxnxcxcx »

OJFord wrote: post #191

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

> So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc.

It's a clunky interface with poor discoverability, but with the uBO logger open in a browser tab you can click on any request right beside the timestamp and define a new rule with the desired granularity. In the URL Rule tab, the unmarked left column sets the allow/noop/block behavior.

Edit: Found the wiki page: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/The-logger#creating-f...

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by michaelmrose »

sjwright wrote: post #228
apozem wrote: post #125

I really, really wish Apple would update Safari for uBlock Origin. I’m about to publish a Safari extension (a NoScript equivalent) and the content blocking APIs are so limited. iOS is even worse than the Mac, too. On iOS AFAIK you can’t even reload the page for the user.

> you can’t even reload the page for the user Can you explain why you'd want to do this? At first blush it seems like a terrible idea to allow extensions to reload pages.

On the ublock origin UI you can click a little icon in the toolbar pull up the settings for that page. There is a little icon you that shows you whether it is enabled or disabled both in the toolbar and in this settings page. Clicking it in the settings page toggles the state for that page which is retained next time you visit.

When you change the state a little refresh icon appears right behind the status icon indicating that the state of the page as shown doesn't match your setting. Clicking it reloads the page.

You could reload it automatically at state change but this might break whatever the user is in the middle of doing.

You don't have to have this feature but it is handy that the reminder that the page is out of sync is a button to fix this and that it is half an inch from your current mouse position.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by boring_twenties »

bentcorner wrote: post #20
zaik wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox Mobile + uBlock works great for me.

It works pretty well but Edge/Chrome feel better than FF on mobile. Scrolling performance is probably the biggest difference. I've had issues with using FF as the default webview too.

From my perspective, scrolling performance is a minor annoyance, whereas the inability to block ads is basically a complete showstopper.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by m463 »

OJFord wrote: post #191

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

I too use umatrix, but someone said ubo had an advanced setting that was like umatrix, so I was thinking about switching.

Is this true or not?

wait, here it is: https://news.ycombinator.com/edit?id=25920135

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by Nerada »

OJFord wrote: post #191

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

I'm in the same boat. My main objection to uBO is the cryptic UI. I have no idea what the two columns to the right of a domain are as there's no column headings, or the two nested buttons in each column, one of which is grey (where I'd assume there'd be green to counter the red?), or the "+"/"++" that sometimes appear over said buttons... Or the green bars that creep in from the far left over the domain names, at staggering lengths.

The uMatrix UI on the other hand was incredibly intuitive, and more granular. Then again, maybe that comes down to me not understanding what the hell is going on with uBO's UI.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by barrkel »

apozem wrote: post #125

I really, really wish Apple would update Safari for uBlock Origin. I’m about to publish a Safari extension (a NoScript equivalent) and the content blocking APIs are so limited. iOS is even worse than the Mac, too. On iOS AFAIK you can’t even reload the page for the user.

The other side of the coin of content filtering is the possibility of snooping and data exfiltration.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by boring_twenties »

mhitza wrote: post #130
voxic11 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I want to point out that uBlock Origin is fully functional on mobile firefox which makes it by far the best browser on Android. Plus with firefox you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API on youtube so that you can listen to audiobooks or music with the screen off and ad-free.

I gave it a shot on Android, but the fact that it doesn't support userscripts (Greasemonkey), it makes old.reddit.com unreadable. For some reason Chrome increases the font size for that site, whereas on Firefox I have very tiny text and constantly have to zoom in. As I mostly read reddit/hacker news on my phone I had to drop Firefox on Android :(

For reddit specifically there is more than one free-as-in-freedom app available. I use Slide, and am happy with it, but these days Infinity seems to be recommended more (never tried it myself). Both are GPL or AGPL and available from the main F-Droid repository.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by d110af5ccf »

OJFord wrote: post #191

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

> but I don't know why they were ever separate?

I also wonder about this. I still run both side by side. (I haven't noticed any problems with uMatrix so far ...) All I really use uMatrix for is quick coarse grained 2D filtering of various content types. I don't understand why that couldn't be implemented as an optional "first pass" filtering layer in uBlock.

I realize uBlock can mostly already do what uMatrix does, honestly I just find the 2D UI to be incredibly convenient and intuitive.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by broodbucket »

Karunamon wrote: post #232
shmerl wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never really got the appeal of Chrome. Firefox worked very well for me for years.

I don't trust Mozilla to not break my workflow or remove features I use or ignore debilitating bugs for upwards of a decade in some ham-handed attempt to "keep me safe". That sounds pithy, and it is, but Mozilla burned every ounce of goodwill they ever had with me over the last 5 years or so.

ah yes, good will, the thing we all definitely have for Google
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