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Re: Voltswagen of America

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pronunciation doesn't go like that but that is a big discussion for its own thread Funny remark though while watching the F1 Netflix show, Schumacher said his name like SchumaKer , hence the Engish Pronunciation which goes to show that he adapted to the audience.

I was trying to figure out whether Charles Leclerc really pronounces it as he did in the show, and if so, for which audience (Italian? English?).

I've decided that it must be the 'correct' pronunciation because "Sharl LeclerK" doesn't make sense for either language.

Re: Voltswagen of America

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post #179

I previously owned a VW, but swore on my life that I'd never buy another one after the emissions cheating scandal. There are plenty of reasons why a VW likely wont be my next choice, but I'm softening my stance a bit. What they did was absolutely reprehensible, but I later learned that the more accurate story is that they bore the brunt of media attention for something that nearly every auto manufacturer was later fo…

My dad used to joke that if you wanted sneakers that were not made by child labor, your best bet was whichever manufacturer last got into trouble for it because of all the extra scrutiny. That this level of fatalism about immoral acts exists is a failure of society as a whole. I suspect that all of those who got rich either knowingly or being willfully ignorant about emissions cheating walked away completely unpunish…

Fair and I mostly agree, but there are exceptions. New Balance for example makes a lot of it's shoes in the US.

Re: Voltswagen of America

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post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they ran a campaign of donating to environmental protection charities, carbon capture, or some other means of protecting the planet, with a value equal to that of the money of the revenue of their diesel cheating vehicles sales, I would say they have changed. Until then, I still think they are doing what they do for the sake of profit.

If they did what you suggest, wouldn't you also conclude that they are doing it for the sake of (future) profit?

I would, but also, if they can rectify the damage they have done, then it becomes easier to forgive. I understand all companies seek profit and need to. I'm not against that, but I am against doing it illegally while harming our health and environment.

Re: Voltswagen of America

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Reminds me of the "Siemens Healthineers" madness. German companies are really good ruining perfectly fine brands (look e.g. at the new BMW logo), so I wouldn't be suprised if this was real. If they really want to change the name why not just use "Volta", which at least is short.

>really want to change the name why not just use "Volta"

Because that would be undoing the entire VW brand they've been building for decades at the cost of billions.

Voltswagen is a natural increment to Volkswagen while still maintaining that legacy branding.

Re: Voltswagen of America

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post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans are pronouncing it perfectly correctly as most of us speak English and not German.

Does it bother you when Germans say "zis"? German has no "th" sound, so "zis" is what they start with before they practice. It's similarly grating to Germans to hear their language mispronounced by others. And yet, English has an "f" sound. German has an extremely consistent spelling and essentially all "v"s are pronounced as "f". We share (the latin) alphabet, and English has absolutely no authority, given how incon…

'bother' me? No, not at all, the sounds are close enough I get the meaning, mostly from context.

I am not sure why there should be an emotional factor here, as expecting everybody to conform to some pronunciation ideal they have no experience with is arrogant, to say the least.

Re: Voltswagen of America

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post #179

I previously owned a VW, but swore on my life that I'd never buy another one after the emissions cheating scandal. There are plenty of reasons why a VW likely wont be my next choice, but I'm softening my stance a bit. What they did was absolutely reprehensible, but I later learned that the more accurate story is that they bore the brunt of media attention for something that nearly every auto manufacturer was later fo…

>What they did was absolutely reprehensible,

Okay, this is a bit much. I know you came to realize all the car companies were doing it, so relatively speaking, it evens out when it comes to image. But this concept of hating a company over false marketing, it's a "and cows moo" moment. All big companies lie about their performances and benefits. Every. Single. One. Who would have guessed people would lie to make money... what a revelation. It's extremely naïve to feel hurt by a company trying to gain the edge over another by lying. That's some weird identity tying consumerism right there.

It was already an old joke when George Carlin did his stand up bit on marketing terms bs and that was some 20 years ago. It's time to grow up. No company is immune from this attitude either. Tech is fraught with it too. WeWork, Theranos are the nice examples. But remember, before it became publicly okay to rag on them, there were folks pointing out the bullshit. Folks who weren't believed because they were so negative about "wanting to change the world". Any time a company tries to play the, "We're making the world a better place" card, whether environmental, social, whatever, it's safe to assume bullshit is afoot. Plays out all the time.

Re: Voltswagen of America

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If this isn't a joke, it actually does make sense. Easier to pronounce in english. Means electric car... the growth category. Why not? "Volkswagen" is big enough that the name just means the company/product. But, it isn't really good brand name for an anglo market. You either can't pronounce it, or the literal connotation makes you a little uncomfortable.

What is the literal connotation?

Re: Voltswagen of America

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Got a Subaru Outback 10 days ago. After I saw this, I told my wife that will probably be the last vehicle we buy that is not at least a plug-in hybrid.

We had also test-driven a Toyota Avalon Hybrid, but the Subaru was a much better value and had more vertical trunk space, AWD, and every safety/convenience feature we could imagine getting (and some we weren't even aware of) without buying a $70k+ Lexus/BMW/Mercedes.

I really wish Subaru made plug-in hybrids, hopefully they will by the time our minivan is 8-9 years old.

Re: Voltswagen of America

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post #179

I previously owned a VW, but swore on my life that I'd never buy another one after the emissions cheating scandal. There are plenty of reasons why a VW likely wont be my next choice, but I'm softening my stance a bit. What they did was absolutely reprehensible, but I later learned that the more accurate story is that they bore the brunt of media attention for something that nearly every auto manufacturer was later fo…

My dad used to joke that if you wanted sneakers that were not made by child labor, your best bet was whichever manufacturer last got into trouble for it because of all the extra scrutiny. That this level of fatalism about immoral acts exists is a failure of society as a whole. I suspect that all of those who got rich either knowingly or being willfully ignorant about emissions cheating walked away completely unpunish…

Instead of posting uninformed speculation, you can just Google it…

> In 2017, the U.S.-based VW executive Oliver Schmidt, who oversaw emissions issues, was sentenced to seven years in prison and fined $400,000, the maximum possible under a plea deal the German national made with prosecutors after admitting to charges of conspiring to mislead U.S regulators and violate clean-air laws.

The US has charged nine people, and Germany at least five, though they aren't moving quickly with the prosecutions.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-emissions/u-s-...

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