The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

Post by smolder » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:40 PM UTC

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> While there may be no "algorithm" controlling the narrative you see on 4chan (or a straightforward and ostensibly fair one on a site like reddit), the content you see (and by extension, the narrative) is shaped by profit motive: From well-compensated marketing teams, to hordes of self-interested proselytizers (see: bitcoin), to propaganda teams looking to influence public opinion I've realized I have exactly one ou…

I find plenty of these types of communities through Discord, and I think that is part of the equation that's left out here. I don't really like discord much, but the reason I get when I do is to go check in on those friends. Usually these communities are just people that I've met playing games. I don't know that these would qualify as counter-culture or subculture, but they are free of marketing and advertising, and…

Post by shakezula » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:42 PM UTC

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I'm hesitant to even admit that far-left politics are more accepted; I've seen harsher rejection of socialist ideals than legitimate, objective fascism. But I agree with your general point - if the far right was gone overnight, the far left would be next up on the chopping block. > highly uniform slightly left leaning milquetoast walled city. This is absolutely true, though. It's become their immediate point of mocke…

> I'm hesitant to even admit that far-left politics are more accepted Yea, I should have been more specific, it depends heavily on the circles you run in. > It's frustrating, because I think that the left should chill out with the identity politics It seems to me like this is not uncommon. There's a lot of oneupmanship in politics where whoever is the most rigid and unyielding to complexity in their belief system is…

Post by temp0826 » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:47 PM UTC

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YouTube is filled with so many interesting little channels. I wish the algorithms highlighted them more. I remember one channel of an old guy just smoking a cigar for an hour. Said nothing, just sat there. There were thousands of videos of him doing this, going back years. I don’t remember the name of it, unfortunately.

Can you share a few? YouTube always seems to stick me in a bubble and never recommends any worthwhile new channels.

Post by mattgreenrocks » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:56 PM UTC

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Still reading the article, but this is an interesting blurb if nothing else: "To be truly countercultural today, in a time of tech hegemony, one has to, above all, betray the platform, which may come in the form of betraying or divesting from your public online self." I hadn't thought of boycotting much of popular online space as being counter-cultural. It's an interesting thought.

> I hadn't thought of boycotting much of popular online space as being counter-cultural. It's an interesting thought I think the interesting part is that it's kind of counter-culture but it itself is not really a culture at all. There are no groups (as far as I know) for people who eschew social media. They don't meet up at the pub and talk about it, they don't have any kind of organization, even a loose one. People…

Post by throwitaway1235 » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:57 PM UTC

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DDoSecrets targeted the most vulnerable voices in society, people banished to Gab for their political beliefs. They literally work for the liberal ruling system.

> most vulnerable voices It's really sad you apparently posted this seriously.