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New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by r00fus »

matt-attack wrote: post #221
adrr wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will probably be physical keys with screens in them. As seen in this patent. https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/29/apple-researching-keybo... Mag safe is going to be on the charging cable and not the computer. Like on old game consoles with wired controllers.

It seems clear to me that they're going to incorporate the exact same Mag Safe charger as they did on the iPhone 12. Same magnetic paddle, but it will attach to the lid or the back or something.

Hope it's the bottom. Then you can "dock" your MBP without any latches. Some people might make a desk or tabletop that would allow the On the screen back would look bizarre.

Now imagine if MagSafe could also be a data channel...

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Post by colmvp »

aaomidi wrote: post #210

The touchbar is such a cool piece of technology. I'm sad to see users didn't embrace it as much as they could've. It created a dynamically adapting interface that just opened up so many more possibilities.

To be honest, the TouchBar was one the reasons why I still haven't upgraded my MacBook (first Retina). I bought a PC laptop to tie me over until they reverted this change.

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Post by Klathmon »

AlexandrB wrote: post #238
Klathmon wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that's true. I believe modern wireless chargers are around 75% to 85% efficient. That sounds bad at first, but I believe most ac-dc charging bricks are in the 80% to 90% efficiency range, so it's actually not much worse at all. And if it really is magsafe, the "secret sauce" there is the magnets will align things almost perfectly every time avoiding unaligned charging coils.

There's still a charging brick powering the wireless charger so isn't the 75-85% stacked on top of the 80-90%? That gives you 56-77% efficiency.

ah good point, I'm not sure what I was thinking!

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Post by _9omd »

ravenstine wrote: post #216

I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

I'm doing the same with my 2015, it really was the pinnacle of MBP design. Mine still works flawlessly, and typing on it is such a joy.

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Post by aaomidi »

neither_color wrote: post #215
aaomidi wrote: post #210

The touchbar is such a cool piece of technology. I'm sad to see users didn't embrace it as much as they could've. It created a dynamically adapting interface that just opened up so many more possibilities.

I've tried Better Touch Tool and Pock and I just can't get into the habit of using it. It just doesn't solve enough problems that I'm compelled to use it.

It's not necessarily to solve problems, but open a new method of interacting with your computer.

I've loved the usefulness of it when watching media, quickly opening man pages for the command I'm running. Having a touchbar pet running around when I'm having a bad time

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Post by mgkimsal »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #239
square_usual wrote: post #38

I know it's from Kuo, but these leaks don't pass the smell test for me. It makes no sense for them to add the touchbar to the base model 13" MBPs only to remove them from the higher end versions. It makes even less sense to add more ports which aren't USB-C, as the bits about MagSafe and no dongles imply. Further, I don't understand what is meant by "iPhone 12 like" non-curvy design - I have a 2018 MBP 15", and the s…

> I know it's from Kuo, but these leaks don't pass the smell test for me. It makes no sense for them to add the touchbar to the base model 13" MBPs only to remove them from the higher end versions What if the new model had a touch screen?

or the trackpad was a full 'touch' screen?

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Post by jsheard »

Klathmon wrote: post #224
ravenstine wrote: post #216

I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

I wonder if the "MagSafe" they are talking about is the new magsafe wireless charging on the iphone 12? It would be nice to be able to have a charging pad for my laptop rather than needing to mess with wires at all. Speculation time! I wonder if they will be able to put a magsafe wireless charging spot both under the laptop, and on top next to the trackpad! They could let you charge your iphone from your laptop, and…

> Speculation time! I wonder if they will be able to put a magsafe wireless charging spot [...] on "top" next to the trackpad!

Apple patented that idea just recently: https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/5/22215413/apple-patent-devi...

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Post by jrockway »

runawaybottle wrote: post #163
Hamuko wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing about Touch Bar is that you can't really integrate it as part of your workflow if you ever dock your computer and use an external keyboard.

The touchbar is a whole bunch of tech they manufacture that seems to add little value. I expect it to cut cost and complexity in the most obvious way (literally just shave off 65 dollars from the laptop, regain some space if possible). Make the function keys super small and increase track pad size, or add more vents. Another rumor: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/29/apple-researching-keybo... ^ This might be the fi…

Always felt like a bit of marketing to me. Nobody would buy the laptops if they said "this thing is 10x slower than a random desktop cobbled together from parts purchased on Ebay, and gets hot enough to burn your lap when you use it as a laptop", so they kind of had no choice but to add some sort of whizbang wowie zowie add-on to stand out from PC laptops (that also used the same slow and inefficient CPUs). Now that their laptops are as fast as desktops and use very little power, they can sell them on computing power alone, meaning they don't need to inflate the BOM with gizmos and gadgets. One less thing to break. Good riddance, I say.
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