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Why not just use SMS/iMessage groups ?
In many countries, few people have iPhones, and SMS are costly.
In Brazil we hurry to turn off the call if it goes into voicemail, as we pay to leave a message AND nobody listens to them because it costs a lot to listen (or at least used to).
I'd love to give up WhatsApp, but network effects are key here. I tried moving my extended family off WhatsApp onto Signal a couple of years ago and it failed miserably because the app wasn't nearly as easy to use, and they had all their friends on Whatsapp. Has anyone here had any success moving a large group of people onto something like Signal or Telegram? If so, do you have any tips?
dont use apps at all. works fine.
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Signal's not like... "tech for tech people." It's very much usable for nontechnical family members, etc.
While I agree with this 90% of the way, their backup, restore, and phone changing process is very much "tech for tech people". I've had the joy of trying to explain to my elderly dad why his text message history is lost because he chose Signal as the default sms system, didn't make a backup, didn't sync that backup to the cloud or manually copy it to the new phone, and didn't write down the very long decryption code.
Everyone is comparing signal vs. telegram, but what about element? Far as I can tell, that might actually be secure. https://element.io/
To give an idea, I think Matrix (and hence Element) borrowed the e2e design from Signal. So if they did it right it should be secure. I demoed it recently as a Slack alternative and it's not very user friendly. Our groups ended up just using Signal.
Does this also apply to European customers, given GDPR?
Whatever WhatsApp/Facebook do to “take care” of the “customers” is just like pig farmers taking care of pigs.
Anyone know of a way to backup everything from whatsapp, including video and voice messages? I have 5 years of messages between me and my wife on whatsapp i'd like to preserve some how before moving off.
[0] https://faq.whatsapp.com/android/chats/how-to-save-your-chat...
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$1 a year is super low. YouTube values their ads at approximately $12 a month[0] - FB can’t be much less. (E: 12, not 18. 18 is for families) 0: https://YouTube.com/premium
YouTube values the absence of their ads at $12/mo. If I make $1/mo/per user from adverts, but my conversion rate is 1/12 at $12/mo, then I'm making $23 for every 12 users. Doesn't mean I make $12/user/month.
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Signal's not like... "tech for tech people." It's very much usable for nontechnical family members, etc.
While I agree with this 90% of the way, their backup, restore, and phone changing process is very much "tech for tech people". I've had the joy of trying to explain to my elderly dad why his text message history is lost because he chose Signal as the default sms system, didn't make a backup, didn't sync that backup to the cloud or manually copy it to the new phone, and didn't write down the very long decryption code.
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fun fact: they also collect data from apps they don't own but which use Facebook SDK. eg. Opera, Duolingo, Kayak and tons of others. So deleting Facebook app and Facebook account doesn't do much as you think it's does.
Good thing Adaway blocks Facebook hosts on a system level so I don't have to worry about the Facebook SDK so long as I keep my hosts list updated.