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Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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If you think companies operating under the influence of the USG are better you've got another thing coming. EDIT: I like that whenever I post something negative about the USG in an anti-China thread, I go to -4 then bounce up later. It could be people are really that nationalistic. Who knows.

No, it’s just apples and oranges. The USA is a flawed constitutional republic that runs on a messy democratic process. It’s ugly sometimes, but it’s fundamentally good. The PRC is something else.

The US CIA runs a global secret network of unaccountable torture prisons.

When the US congress tried to investigate them, the CIA compromised the congressional computers to avoid oversight of their torture programs, then lied about compromising them.

The US military conducts bulk espionage on everyone inside the country, in violation of the country's own basic law.

The differences aren't quite as stark as you think.

I also believe that if you ask the average Chinese or Russian person (the US bogeymen of the season) they would also believe that their country is fundamentally good.

It turns out humans everywhere are fundamentally good, and governments everywhere tend toward illegal and oppressive authoritatianism, given enough time to gather resources, size, and fear.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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No way is the CCP not manipulating TikTok's black-box (cough cough "Machine Learning") algorithm to surface content that is better for them in some way. Should they be sold to America though or should they just be forced to die on the Chinese vine?

Yeah - this is the real risk with TikTok, not the data (or who hosts the data). Moving the cloud hosted data to Oracle doesn't solve the underlying risk. The real risk is CCP manipulating what's surfaced via the algorithm to sway public perception or to censor things they dislike. They've already done this explicitly with the protests in HK and Tiananmen Square, they'll do it in other ways that suit them. The worst p…

Ugh, china's control over apple has to be one of the biggest political compromises and also successes (for china) in the world. They can't do anything too awful since Apple is likable and high profile, but after the HongKong app censoring and tim cook's letter, it became apparent who was in charge.
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