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Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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I used to own 10k IP addresses that I sold as proxy servers to internet marketers. I made about $20k a month and it paid my bills through college. I had no idea what I was doing and eventually shut down the company, but damn, I wish I at least kept control of those things. If you want to see some sketchy shit, look deeply into what the VPN companies are doing.

Wait, you were making $20,000 a MONTH, and you gave it up? I don't understand.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Back at home the company behind NordVPN is touted as a top company.Recenly was reading an article that they'll be moving to new premises, as they've already got 1500 working for them.

That’s the thing that is so bizarre about VPNs. That’s a big company — why do people trust them?

Most users probably don't trust them much at all, but trust them just enough for the very minimal uses they might need them for. I would not use a consumer vpn if my life or liberty depended on it.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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post #120

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College bills i would guess

but $20k is like, a year's tuition at a University. Did parent also rent a mansion to live in while attending?

Or like a whole degree from bachelor to masters and a 15.000$ car (in Europe)

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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I’m more surprised that a single IP address is worth $20 apparently than Amazon owning 100 million of them. What I wonder, is it a competitive advantage for Amazon at this point that they have so many? Phrased differently, would it benefit Amazon if the current status quo of IPv4 vs IPv6 adoption is maintained?

No, not really. If a new organization needs a large block of ip addresses, they just use IPv6. The biggest reason IPv4 persists is because deploying IPv6 can be very expensive for legacy users: new equipment, retraining, hiring. For a large organization, planning and executing such a deployment can take years. There are a lot of fresh new telecom providers in India who do not have that kind of baggage, so they chose…

> You'll notice that if you're on a cellular network, even in the U.S., you will have an IPv6 address.

Just a data point.

I'm on a cellular network in the UK for both my phone and my phone network (via 4G router).

My phone get an IPv6 address only, no IPv4.

But my home network gets an IPv4 address only, no IPv6. I can't obtain IPv6 on the home network even though it's the same cellular service (down to the same kind of SIM and same contract) as the phone.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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What, besides DNS, is preventing the migration to IPv6? Is it old technology still in use? My house is completely IPv6 and not intentionally so.

For myself, IPv6 address are just to annoying to deal with as a human. It's as much of a mental shift as replacing street addresses with Latitude/Longitude coordinates. So I've avoided IPv6 as much as possible.

I feel the same. Nice analogy, going to use it.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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post #239

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> If you want to see some sketchy shit, look deeply into what the VPN companies are doing. You mean selling use of residential IP addresses of people who have no idea? I assumed that was the case when I saw companies selling proxies that route through residential IPs

how do they do that?

One example is the Hola VPN which, in itself, is a VPN that uses other users' connections to act as a VPN to almost all countries, but they also sell access to this network of IPs via https://luminati.io/.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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post #239

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> If you want to see some sketchy shit, look deeply into what the VPN companies are doing. You mean selling use of residential IP addresses of people who have no idea? I assumed that was the case when I saw companies selling proxies that route through residential IPs

how do they do that?

Basically like Tor, some VPNs route someone else's VPN connection through your VPN client. If I want an IP address in Sweden and someone in Sweden wants a US address some VPN companies would just route our traffic through each other's home addresses (potentially leaving you on the hook for what the other user was doing).

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back at home the company behind NordVPN is touted as a top company.Recenly was reading an article that they'll be moving to new premises, as they've already got 1500 working for them.

That’s the thing that is so bizarre about VPNs. That’s a big company — why do people trust them?

How much trust do you really need to lend to them if you're just using it because you want to unblock Netflix or get around your school/work network barriers?

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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post #46

$ wget https://ip-ranges.amazonaws.com/ip-ranges.json $ grep ip_prefix ip-ranges.json | sed -re 's|.*(/[0-9]+).*|\1|' | sort | uniq -c 4 /11 16 /12 30 /13 82 /14 188 /15 278 /16 70 /17 63 /18 30 /19 47 /20 111 /21 248 /22 204 /23 839 /24 68 /25 235 /26 142 /27 124 /28 50 /29 42 /30 362 /31 370 /32

You may be interested in jq : > jq is like sed for JSON data - you can use it to slice and filter and map and transform structured data with the same ease that sed, awk, grep and friends let you play with text. * https://stedolan.github.io/jq/

also someone tell them about curl

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

#250

I used to own 10k IP addresses that I sold as proxy servers to internet marketers. I made about $20k a month and it paid my bills through college. I had no idea what I was doing and eventually shut down the company, but damn, I wish I at least kept control of those things. If you want to see some sketchy shit, look deeply into what the VPN companies are doing.

Wait, you were making $20,000 a MONTH, and you gave it up? I don't understand.

There's a lot to be said about the anxiety of "I'm making a lot of money doing something I don't understand". I've backed out of businesses where I could have been a millionaire but also could have been in prison for violating some law/regulation that I knew nothing about. It starts feeling like you're running a scam.
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