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Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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It depends on how the Justice department feels, to some extent. GM in the 50s and 60s actually kept an eye on their market share, and sometimes would kill/cutback projects or products that may have threatened going over a certain percentage (around 60%, IIRC.) At that time merely going over that number would have been enough to start an investigation. Some would argue though that back then DOJ 'cared' more.

If you're curious about how this changed, "Amazon's Antitrust Paradox" by Lina Khan article is a wonderful read: https://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?arti... The summary is that the Chicago school of Economics promoted the idea that in a competitive market, predatory pricing is not possible. Thus, when you see an industry structure emerge (e.g. duopoly), you should assume that it is an efficient co…

The Chicago School has a bad case of thinking with their assumptions, instead of thinking to check their assumptions.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Thanksgiving and Christmas are then some of the quietest times in terms of outages. Of course, the interval right after then is usually worse, since all of the backlogged changes from the holidays land at once. “Diff”, not PR.

There is a period just before the freeze which can also get a bit hectic, but we should be well beyond that point for most relevant services by now. Don't know the exact dates since I left in September. But your point stands: holiday freezes exist and are taken seriously.

End of next week Lol

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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It's been a while since I studied routing, but have they fixed BGP security? I remember reading about the protocol and thinking something like: this seems awfully "hippie-trust" levels of security. Granted, this was 10 years ago so my recollection of BGP is super fuzzy :-D

To be fair, BGP only runs between large network operators. The security / trust of routing agreements is mostly solved through business deals and contracts.

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I know Telegram is less secure and Secret Chats are an opt-in. Security-wise Signal would be better... but: Signal experience isn't that good. Alien from the platform they run on. For example, no system recommendations to send this person a message or share something with them through signal.. Telegram is more a platform native and integrated into the system. Also there is the issue of messages arriving late (not min…

I can share to Signal or contacts-via-Signal, and have been for years... I think this is a you problem. Signal is honestly fantastic as a SMS-replacement app. It sends Signal messages to contacts with Signal and normal SMS to contacts without (Telegram might do the same thing, being able to set it as your default SMS app, I'm not sure).

Maybe not clear enough normal sharing works yes.. but recommendations of persons to share with in the system share sheets are not working.

https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/iphone_...

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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I know Telegram is less secure and Secret Chats are an opt-in. Security-wise Signal would be better... but: Signal experience isn't that good. Alien from the platform they run on. For example, no system recommendations to send this person a message or share something with them through signal.. Telegram is more a platform native and integrated into the system. Also there is the issue of messages arriving late (not min…

On android, I see signal right next to all of the other messaging apps when sharing a photo or some other type of supported file.

Maybe not clear enough normal sharing works yes.. but recommendations of persons to share with in the system share sheets are not working.

https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/iphone_...

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Signal needs to up its game. The experience is very far from being as polished as Telegram.

Is Signal's desktop experience still an electron app?

I just got onto Telegram this week and was pleasantly surprised to see completely native apps across iOS, iPadOS and a full featured native Mac OS X app.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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IMHO, it is NOT encrypted, unless the service provider (also can't read your message). A promise from a Russian based company (the Facebook of Russia) doesn't put any assurances for me.

Telegram is not affiliated with VK, neither is Telegram based in Russia 🇷🇺

Hmmm? Telegram founder is a sharholder in VK from what heard from people from Russia and Ukraine.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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IMHO, it is NOT encrypted, unless the service provider (also can't read your message). A promise from a Russian based company (the Facebook of Russia) doesn't put any assurances for me.

We can't just assign new definitions to encryption. It's encrypted in such a way that a person watching the wire can't see the contents of the message. If you don't want the message on the server, use a secret e2e chat. They are very up front and clear on this matter. For the vast majority of my messages, I'm fine with them living on their servers. If I need to send credentials to my family, I can use an e2e channel.…

I acknowledge that it is not the standard tech definition. From a user perspective, 'Encryption' ought to mean only me and the person/people whom I communicate with can read the message.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #165

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Parts of IG in the early days involved filters on iOS, which at the time there was no library for. My understanding. The web version was Django, yes.

By web version I'm guessing you mean server side? Server side was a few python components with lots of tricks in Postgres for scaling purposes. You didn't have any real choices for what language you used in iOS

Yes, that's what I meant. The point I was trying to make was that just knowing server side scripting was a necessary but not sufficient condition to create a hit photo sharing app at that time, because there weren't many options on the camera at the time, and the filters were what drove the growth at that time.
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