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Re: Growl in Retirement

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Post by fierarul » Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 8:44 AM UTC

latexr wrote: post #238

fierarul wrote: post #233

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I knew you can use `osascript` but this still does not tell me if it works with unsigned apps or not. For all we know `osascript` is signed which means it respects the rules.

You can call `osascript` from inside your app, or you can export an AppleScript script as an app. So yes, it works on unsigned apps. It has the same Gatekeeper caveats as any other unsigned app, but there’s nothing about notifications that’s especially locked.

Can I natively call the Objective C API from an unsigned app or not?

Re: Growl in Retirement

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Post by ck425 » Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 9:21 AM UTC

anonymoushn wrote: post #197

ck425 wrote: post #162

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What are you using our of curiosity? I used to use the amazing TotalSpaces but with recent versions of OSx it was no longer able to work. Now I've just gotten used to OSx's shite version but I really miss using a grid

I'm using TotalSpaces on Catalina. The web site says it works on Big Sur but not on Apple Silicon. A developer posted that a future release will be compatible with Apple Silicon: https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/future-support-of-apple-sili...

Do you still have to disable the security setting? Can't recall the name. But that's interesting I'll look back into it.

Re: Growl in Retirement

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Post by agustif » Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 2:39 PM UTC

samat wrote: post #226

Arubis wrote: post #225

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I was unable to find this with a bit of googling; do you have a link?

https://raycast.com I guess

Yes that's correct, sorry for the misspelling on original comment, can't edit now.

It's a pretty young company / product but I see great awesome first party integrations instead of unreliable hacky 3rd party scripts which was the default on alfred/packal median of plugins tbh. (As much as I loved 'em and toying with them)

Raycast integrations with for example another awesome tool (Linear.app for PM) Github Issues or Jira if you or your company feel the necessity to put yourself thorugh such painfully useless endeavour lol)

PS: When looking for alfred scripts the other day for a co-worker which did a clean install after recommending it to swap spotlight, packal returned pretty ugly errors when running any search keyword on the site, doesn't seem that well maintained either... so

Re: Growl in Retirement

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Post by thewebcount » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:09 PM UTC

ChrisGrowl wrote: post #106

thewebcount wrote: post #45

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Not only that, but Apple already had a similar feature in MacOS 8 and 9 that Growl was reproducing in OS X. It seems like Apple just hadn't gotten around to putting it in OS X yet because other things were more important. Then eventually they had time and added it.

I never used macOS until OS X and most definitely did not copy it. Nothing about Growl was a copy of that. Growl was inspired from being project manager on Adium and worked with the people making colloquy. The devs on colloquy were working on notifications and so we’re we and I thought it was smarter to make it a separate tool.

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification.

Re: Growl in Retirement

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Post by thewebcount » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:50 PM UTC

kergonath wrote: post #153

kps wrote: post #70

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Not very similar. If you wanted a message, the OS put up a modal dialogue blocking everything else. The whole point of Growl was that it didn't interrupt you, and you could have its messages go away on their own.

There were these yellow messages that popped up in the upper right-hand corner in MacOS 9. Those were just non-blocking notifications.

Exactly. They look a lot like Growl and the macOS X notifications and were not modal.