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Joe McCarthy says Hi. Did you forget about the horrifying legacy of both literal and figurative witch trials? How about the US only very recently abandoning the idea that one person could own another? The idea that patriotism is a necessity makes me nauseous, particularly given the ghastly scars of full-on repression and brutality the US wears on its face for anyone with the temerity to speak the wrong opinion. Frank…

I'm sorry, but if you reply in such a hostile manner, I really have no interest in a discussion. You don't seem open to actually discussing anything and would rather pontificate for upvotes. My suggestion: read more history books and learn to appreciate the sacrifices that your forebears made so that you have the privilege of having your current opinion. A lot of people died for you to to be able to have the freedom…

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I don't feel like I need any more words to express my opinion. It's exactly like religion, if you weren't raised in it, you correctly see it at culty and weird.

Religion would seem culty since a cult is literally a religion.

American brand patriotism with it's strong demands of unthinking obedience has a lot of the same qualities as a religion.

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Ugh. That “renounce your citizenship then” jibe speaks volumes about the revulsion felt by authoritarians for nonconformists. It is bigotry 101, and repeating it labels you personally. Fortunately, I’m perfectly capable of discharging my civic responsibilities without having to believe in some animistic delusion, any more than I need a church to supply a moral compass. My loyalty belongs to people, not places, and to…

Your loyalty belongs to people? No doubt that's why you called them "revisionist shitbirds" a few posts upthread.

I merely leave that as a tripwire for anyone willing to reveal their hidden inner fascist.

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Dulce et decorum est , eh? That old Lie.

Being born somewhere and being a citizen gives you certain rights but also responsibilities. Not being loyal to your country means that you're not taking care of your responsibilities, so it would be fair that you should not enjoy the rights of citizenship. Those that dislike patriotism so much should provide the ultimate proof of their beliefs and renounce their citizenship. They shall surely be celebrated by all co…

No thanks I will continue to reap the rewards of pure chance and continue to trigger those such as yourself.

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I've never been in a raging fire, but the property seems to be very open and spacious with no obvious choke points, how does one end up so trapped, and without realizing a fire is breaking out? My guess is he passed out from the smoke inhalation first while asleep and was burned.

I can tell you from having been in a building that had a major fire, the speed with which smoke and fire spreads is hard to imagine. Within 30 seconds of the alarm, halls where filled with choking smoke. I managed to exit without too much difficulty, but even with covering my face with my shirt, I was still coughing and black gunk coming out my nose for the rest of the day. Others needed oxygen support even after bei…

Incredible.

Maybe worth people checking up on videos like these from time to time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiN_A-OSt8

(Turns out Thanksgiving is peak season for house fires.)

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As someone who had never heard of the practice before moving to the US as a teen, it seemed pretty culty to me. I understand most Americans aren't that bothered, but that makes it even more creepy to us foreigners. I'm sure North Koreans are used to the Kims' pictures in every room, but that doesn't make it less weird from an outsiders perspective.

Comparing the Pledge of Allegiance to North Korean indoctrination is exactly the sort of absurd nonsense that I'm talking about. It's a basic tradition that helps instill patriotism, which from a purely practical point of view, is almost a political necessity in a country as diverse as America. Criticizing one's own country, which is probably one of the most American things one can do, is absolutely not possible in N…

I was referring to the portraits of Kim Il Sung an Kim Jong Il which they hang in every house (and I believe most rooms). I think that is quite comparable.

I would completely agree that the whole of "North Korean indoctrination" is worse than anything seen in mainstream USA.

I'm not claiming Americans are behind, I'm saying the pledge seems creepy from an outside perspective.

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While Zappos was bought for $1.2B, that was in AMZN stock that’s now up 32x since November 2009

Can't get more HN and SV than commenting about AMZN stock price in a reply to a emotional personal story of a recent passing.

I don't think this kind of behaviour is reflective of HN as a whole- there are very many thoughtful people sharing their thoughts here

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I've never been in a raging fire, but the property seems to be very open and spacious with no obvious choke points, how does one end up so trapped, and without realizing a fire is breaking out? My guess is he passed out from the smoke inhalation first while asleep and was burned.

I can tell you from having been in a building that had a major fire, the speed with which smoke and fire spreads is hard to imagine. Within 30 seconds of the alarm, halls where filled with choking smoke. I managed to exit without too much difficulty, but even with covering my face with my shirt, I was still coughing and black gunk coming out my nose for the rest of the day. Others needed oxygen support even after bei…

I used to work at the Davenport and recognized the building immediately from the pictures. I didn’t realize there was a major fire at One Broadway. Glad you made it out safely and thanks for the advice.

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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Could you give this a rest? It's ghoulish and unnecessary.

With anything this public, such questions will inevitably arise. It was not my intention to be ghoulish or inconsiderate in asking the question. A family member of mine died in a house fire as well, and her death prompted the development of new insulation safety standards in Germany (this being a number of decades ago). Knowing what led to this fire is of interest to me. I've edited my grandparent comment to remove t…

Though I don't think I ever met him personally, I like many here was very moved by his ideas and his ethics and his works and am really saddened to hear this news. Like you I also have questions and would like to hear more. I always find it helpful in grief to just hear what happened. Was it a mechanical malfunction? Was it a lack of fire alarms? Was it arson or murder? Was it suicide? It's extremely sad, and only 1/1000 deaths in the US are now caused by fire, and am just wondering how it could happen to such a smart, young, generous person.
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