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Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I'm maintaining a gallery of split mechanical keyboards, including the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. Hopefully it's helpful for a quick overview of the options that exist. Many of these keyboards are DIY (available as a kit, or sometimes just a PCB and case plan), but some are available assembled. https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/ (There's also https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/ for direct comparis…

What a great site, thanks. Really brings home how strange this corner of the market is. Every split keyboard with nice keyswitches has a different layout from every other, and most of them miss one or more of F keys, symmetrical meta keys, standard navigation cluster layout, volume buttons, and so on. Quite extraordinary, considering how much this type of device relies on muscle memory to work. It's like their design…

People tend to use layers to get at extra keys like F keys, volume keys, etc. I think it goes too far when they omit the number row, but honestly I mostly type numbers in a numpad layer, so I see the appeal. Basically, people see pressing two keys at once as less work than moving their hand off of home row, and being one of those people myself, I think it's the right thing. I fear that the standard keyboard layout was chosen for discoverability, not productivity. Giving your two best fingers (the thumb) one key between them (the space bar) is kind of crazy, in my opinion. Once you accept that your thumbs can do different things, and even many different things, the keyboard layout design space is significantly enhanced.

Having said that, I did make myself a split ergonomic keyboard with a full set of keys (107, if I recall correctly). Here's a picture:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/XPvTVdwaP2tog8zj6

I ended up not liking the arrows where they were (was used to the Ergodox layout where they are not an inverted T but wrap the big right thumb keys) and stopped using it. Having the number pad was great for Blender, but hard to reach.

With cheap keyswitches, cheap microcontrollers, and cheap 3D printers around... there is no reason not to build a keyboard that meets your exact requirements. I use an Ergodox EZ, though, but may experiment more in the future.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I'm maintaining a gallery of split mechanical keyboards, including the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. Hopefully it's helpful for a quick overview of the options that exist. Many of these keyboards are DIY (available as a kit, or sometimes just a PCB and case plan), but some are available assembled. https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/ (There's also https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/ for direct comparis…

Nice site, but it looks like you're missing the Ergodox EZ

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I've used the UHK daily for a bit over a year now. Planned on writing a full review (which I feel the product deserves), but I'll mention some notes here.

I initially purchased the keyboard to address wrist pains. Likely from my years of development and gaming. Looked at many available split keyboard options. Tested a coworker's Keyboardio which was very comfortable, but pretty bulky and had a high learning curve for its non-standard layout. This was only a problem when I needed to switch back to typing on a laptop. That doesn't happen often but it did slow me down. Felt the same way about the Ergodox. Very comfortable, but took a while to get used (and then a while more to switch back to standard laptop) and it wasn't easy to cart around. Although, a benefit I found from the Ergodox was the fully programmability. This includes mouse programming. While it doesn't compare to having a pointer device, having mouse keys programmed allowed me to use the mouse without moving my hands away from the keyboard. I try to use keyboard shortcuts as much as possible, but today's design is very mouse/pointer heavy. With some site operations being mouse-only. Having that functionality (while not perfect) is great for me.

The main features I ended up looking for came out of testing those two boards: - Split keyboard - Close to standard layout - Portability - Mouse functionality

The two boards I found that fit these were the UHK and the Kinesis RGB Edge that other commenters have mentioned. While I couldn't test the UHK, I did get to try the Edge out at PAX last year. I really like it. It's not the same comfort as the Keyboardio and the Ergodox. But your fingers already know where to go without trying or having to learn anything knew. Keymapping worked really well. The macro keys were nice, though I didn't have time to play with them. It's somewhere in the line of 80% of a full standard keyboard. Which is enough for most. It did however lack in the portability department and didn't have a mouse layer. Not deal breakers, but lacked everything I was looking for. I'd like to try the Redox(w) at some point. At the time though, I ended up taking the leap and purchasing the UHK. It took over a month to arrive. Here's a list of what I like about it:

  - Can be used split or combined into a single board. I've found few split boards can do this. Helps with portability. 
  - Tilting works well and is very stable. Though it requires tools to change the tilting.
  - Build quality is great. There is a nice (steel?) frame that the switches are mounted to. This quality extends to the wrist rests which have a nice metal plate to attach them to the base of the board.
  - Each key I need to press is within reach of my fingers. The Ergodox and Edge had some keys which were out of reach for me.
  - The mapping software is superb! I really appreciate the design and some additional features from that. The very first thing I changed was setting `/~ to Esc. In my mind, this should be the default for any keyboard with the word 'hacking' in the title.
  - While they seemed gimmicky at first, the 'mouse' buttons on the bottom frame of the board are easy to reach and use. Since they are a unique features to this board, I use them to active that mouse layer which works very well.
  - The small profiles allows it to fit really well in a small audio equipment case which I found at a music shop. Again, something difficult to do with the larger, awkwardly shaped boards.
  - Most importantly to me, my wrist pain has reduced dramatically.
In regards to the wrist pain, I will say that my case seems to be more related to wrist movement than wrist angle. The keyboard helps with both. If I had a way to reduce wrist movement with a standard board (not needing a mouse), I likely would have been fine continuing to use one. While the pros have resulted in a board that I'm happy with, I feel I should also list some cons:

  - The switches (MX Clears in my case) feel extremely dry and gritty. This isn't the case with my other keyboards with Clears. I've tried lubricating them but they still have a bit of grit.
  - The standard keycaps are not great. While it's clear the board has a lot of work put into it, the keycaps seem to be an area ignored or sacrificed for cost resulting in thinner (ABS?) plastic. This would be okay but some keys are not standard size so it is difficult to find higher quality replacements. I bought mine with blank caps and a spare set for when these get worn and glossy. If I had one request it would be a replacement set of keycaps from UHK in a higher quality plastic.
  - Every once in a while (maybe once a month) a layer gets stuck. I'll activate the FN layer by holding down a key and releasing that key doesn't deactivate it like it should. By that time I've already tried to type something else only for it to respond with weird behavior I didn't expect because FN is still active. I then have to press the FN key again to deactivate.
  - The LED read-out only works for the built in mod-layers (i.e. QWR for QWERTY, DVK for Dovorak). I use multiple profiles and it would have been nice to be able to program that LED for each profile. Or at the very least, use it for something fun. 
  - The seal on the wooden rest has started to wear a bit. I'll likely sand it down and refinish it if gets worse.

Ultimately, I'm super happy with the UHK. The Kinesis Edge would have been an easier option. However, it doesn't have all the features I was looking for and I prefer not to just buy whatever is available on Amazon. If you have a standard board and want to try split, I would recommend the Edge. The UHK is more expensive and takes time to ship, but I feel it's worth it. Especially if you're looking for something a bit more solidly built, more portable, or you need a mouse layers and other customizable programming.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I'm maintaining a gallery of split mechanical keyboards, including the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. Hopefully it's helpful for a quick overview of the options that exist. Many of these keyboards are DIY (available as a kit, or sometimes just a PCB and case plan), but some are available assembled. https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/ (There's also https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/ for direct comparis…

Nice site, but it looks like you're missing the Ergodox EZ

It is currently 9th in the list, although the order is shuffled each time the site is built.

(Maybe you did a case-sensitive search, or set some filters? I have it as "ErgoDox EZ".)

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I'm maintaining a gallery of split mechanical keyboards, including the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. Hopefully it's helpful for a quick overview of the options that exist. Many of these keyboards are DIY (available as a kit, or sometimes just a PCB and case plan), but some are available assembled. https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/ (There's also https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/ for direct comparis…

ErgoDone - cheap clone of ErgoDox, available on aliexpress.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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The trackball thumb module is a great idea - being able to mouse without moving my right hand off the keyboard would be ideal (you can buy an actual mouse to use for FPS games if you want that). For anyone who is seeing this and thinking they need to upgrade though, know that you really don't have to spend $300 to get a good-quality ergonomic keyboard. The Goldtouch GTN-0099 can be found in like-new condition for $60…

I see it like this: if there is anything you use more than a an hour a day, get a thing that feels good, is functional and makes you happy. Just like different guitars play differently, just like different shoes feel differently, different keyboards feel differently too. If you are fine with a non-mechanical one, no need to defend yourself. Some people like clicky mechanical keyboards, some like linear ones, some wan…

People talk a big game about how durable these pricy mechanical keyboard are, how they can be repaired and last forever, etc. I don't think it works out that way. Looking through these comments you can see people with the Ergodox EZ asking whether they should "upgrade" to something slightly newer. Once you start chasing keyboarding perfection, the journey is endless. Minutae loom large; you're never quite satisfied. It's best to just buy something reasonable and learn to like it for what it is.

I will say the Kinesis Advantage2 people seem to be more or less permanently satisfied, though. So I am tempted.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I have accessibility needs and so I need a trackpad with soft-keys. For years I've been using Logitech K400 keyboards, I say in plural because they are poorly built that I have to replace them frequently.

I recently got fed-up, after failing to find a good mechanical keyboard with trackpad, I settled for a cheap 60% membrane keyboard and Wacom Intuos touch tablet as trackpad with the intention of joining them together in a custom contraption. So far it seems to be working well for me, but I wonder whether I'll be able to go back to anything else after getting accustomed to 9.5" trackpad.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I'm maintaining a gallery of split mechanical keyboards, including the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. Hopefully it's helpful for a quick overview of the options that exist. Many of these keyboards are DIY (available as a kit, or sometimes just a PCB and case plan), but some are available assembled. https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/ (There's also https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/ for direct comparis…

Thanks for the list, do you have recommendations for one hand keyboards? It would be helpful for those with accessibility needs[1].

[1]https://needgap.com/problems/96-one-hand-keyboard-keyboard-a...

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I'm maintaining a gallery of split mechanical keyboards, including the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. Hopefully it's helpful for a quick overview of the options that exist. Many of these keyboards are DIY (available as a kit, or sometimes just a PCB and case plan), but some are available assembled. https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/ (There's also https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/ for direct comparis…

That's a great gallery! I would add the Kinesis Freestyle Edge (https://gaming.kinesis-ergo.com/edge/) , which adds mechanical switches and macro keys.
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