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Post by Sangeppato »

chromedev wrote: post #222
Sangeppato wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple updates for 5 years. No Android manufacturer does that. Google offers 3 years and Samsung does 3 years on their high end flagships (which I don't personally like). Apple is simply on a whole different level in this regard.

When the specs are the same or better on a phone that is $400 less you can actually afford to buy a new Google every 3 years and still save money.

Better specs for $400 less, on a Pixel? Name one phone built to last with better specs than the iPhone SE please, I'm listening. I don't care about multiple cameras, OLED displays, 120 Hz or whatever the industry is trying to push these days, I just want a reliable decently built phone with a good SW support. Furthermore, I don't see how replacing the phone more often would be a positive thing, it just means I would produce more trash.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by zacwest »

dylan604 wrote: post #212
andrekandre wrote: post #199

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apple never gives us the release day, so we are always biting nails when fatal bugs, or issues are reported, there is little communication from apple... alot people/companies depend on what apple is doing here hisotrically, they announce new stuff, then ios is released about 1 week later (conveyed at the annnouncement) this time, it was one day. alot of us had apps already in testing and preparation, but depending on…

I guess my response would be should Apple hold off releasing a major OS update until it has received thumbs up from every single developer? Of course not. The betas for iOS 14 have been out for a long time now (not sure of specific dates). If your app wasn't ready for GM today, then was it really ever going to be? I would assume Apple expects that after each beta version is released, developers update their code for…

Even if zero app changes are required, you must still:

1. Download, extract, and run the new version of Xcode.

Note: you cannot upload builds for production App Store with pre-GM builds. You _must_ use the GM or production Xcode.

It's a 12 GB download, and extracting takes 20 minutes. Factor in about an hour here. Especially around when it's posted you can expect a very slow download.

2. Build, execute and validate the app at least _launches_.

Maybe another 30 minutes.

3. Create and upload an archived build to Apple.

Maybe another 30 minutes.

4. Wait for the uploaded build to finish processing.

This takes somewhere between 1-3 hours.

5. Submit the finished-processing build.

Manual inspection of metadata, screenshot uploading, etc. Let's call it 20 minutes.

6. Wait for approval from Apple.

Who knows how long.

7. Release.

So this is somewhere around 4-5 hours at _minimum_ of work to get the build uploaded.

When you're told at 11am that users will have it in their hands the next day, even if you are incredibly prepared, there's simply very little time to actually do the above in a safe way. And if you're not on Pacific Time, you're going to miss this window entirely.

Not to mention Apple uploaded a GM build of Xcode around noon, and then silently replaced it with an updated version sometime later without explaining what the difference was. Fun stuff.

Also: the GM build has regressions.

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Post by gumby »

crazygringo wrote: post #226

I've just tried out the spatial audio on my iPad with AirPods Pro, with one of the (many) free first episodes on Apple TV+... ...and it's stunning . Seriously. It's actually three separate features in one. First, all the audio is outside of you rather than stuck between your ears. Second, it's surround sound so that dialog actually comes from your iPad, while music comes from all around. And third, it tracks, so if y…

> My understanding is they don't support Macs because they don't have accelerometers/gyroscopes so the AirPods wouldn't know what they were relative to spatially.

What about when using the AppleTV? (This question isn't really for crazygringo who wouldn't be using the Mac to watch video if they owned an appleTV.)

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by porkloin »

AnonHP wrote: post #228

One of my favorite new features in iOS 14 is an accessibility setting that allows a double tap or triple tap on the back of the phone to trigger an action. You can set this up in Settings->Accessibility->Touch->Back Tap . In general, I love how accessibility features on iOS are so useful even for the average person who wouldn’t be considered or classified as disabled.

Seriously! It's really frustrating that people tend to think accessibility features are just for people experiencing disability. The web, applications, and the whole world at large is made better for _all_ people when we build with a mind toward accessibility.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by MBCook »

observr9 wrote: post #151
jwagenet wrote: post #146

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Settings > Sounds & Haptics > Sent Mail > None

I said "iMessage".

Have you tried it? I honestly wouldn’t put it past apple for that one setting to control both things even though you can’t tell by the name.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by city41 »

AnonHP wrote: post #228

One of my favorite new features in iOS 14 is an accessibility setting that allows a double tap or triple tap on the back of the phone to trigger an action. You can set this up in Settings->Accessibility->Touch->Back Tap . In general, I love how accessibility features on iOS are so useful even for the average person who wouldn’t be considered or classified as disabled.

iOS lets you turn on a red filter that disables the green and blue channels. you can set it to turn on by triple tapping the home button (or I'm guessing the back for new phones). This is the one thing I really miss after switching to Android. The red screen is fantastic for reading at night, really easy on the eyes.

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Post by easton »

jkubicek wrote: post #158
gingericha wrote: post #147

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A couple things I would love to see in iMessage having used WhatsApp as my primary messaging app for the past several years: (1) Direct replying/quoting to a specific message. (2) More granular group chat controls (eg ability to add/remove/leave group message threads. (3) Ability to rename group chats so that I don't have 3 chat threads that contain the same first two people plus someone else

re 3: Renaming group chats has been a feature for a few years now

Not for SMS (presumably because it can’t be shared to the other participants, but I’d still like a way to apply an alias to these four or five person deep threads for my own devices).

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by gumby »

AnonHP wrote: post #228

One of my favorite new features in iOS 14 is an accessibility setting that allows a double tap or triple tap on the back of the phone to trigger an action. You can set this up in Settings->Accessibility->Touch->Back Tap . In general, I love how accessibility features on iOS are so useful even for the average person who wouldn’t be considered or classified as disabled.

> In general, I love how accessibility features on iOS are so useful even for the average person who wouldn’t be considered or classified as disabled.

This is super important. People who don't need accomodation sometimes complain about the ADA rules for buildings but at some point everybody takes advantage of things like crash bars to open a door (when your hands are full, or are just on the phone), ramps (perhaps you're pulling something, have a kid, or are on crutches for a few days), handrails (momentary distraction) etc.

And ditto for the phone. I consider the label on the "accessibility" settings just there to make them easy to find; they aren't there for a small number of people (even if most people change at most one default setting).

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by saagarjha »

Hnaomyiph wrote: post #201
munk-a wrote: post #81

Oh how exciting - now if they only removed their restriction of OS installations on old devices then maybe I could make use of it. As it is it's just another nail in the coffin for me ever being able to download an app ever again because their app store doesn't do backwards compatibility well and everything needs to go through the app store.

Not sure why this is getting lots of downvotes. EOL devices should be opened up for whatever software a user wants to put on it. Jailbreaking seems like a somewhat viable option, though, but even that comes with its own issues.

Jailbreaking sadly does not help as much as it could here :(

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by dylan604 »

zacwest wrote: post #242
dylan604 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess my response would be should Apple hold off releasing a major OS update until it has received thumbs up from every single developer? Of course not. The betas for iOS 14 have been out for a long time now (not sure of specific dates). If your app wasn't ready for GM today, then was it really ever going to be? I would assume Apple expects that after each beta version is released, developers update their code for…

Even if zero app changes are required, you must still: 1. Download, extract, and run the new version of Xcode. Note: you cannot upload builds for production App Store with pre-GM builds. You _must_ use the GM or production Xcode. It's a 12 GB download, and extracting takes 20 minutes. Factor in about an hour here. Especially around when it's posted you can expect a very slow download. 2. Build, execute and validate t…

Thanks for that walk through. Again since I'm not an app dev, I have no insight into this process.

Do certain vendors get pre-release access that smaller vendors do not? Does Twitter/Facebook/etc have to do the same thing you just described? If it was truly as bad as you are making it out to be, how in the world does the eco-system survive? There's no way Apple could expect to be able to handle reviewing every single app in this manner. Surely something is missing?

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