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India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by dielll »

jeswin wrote: post #31

What I wish India would do is this: force Chinese phone companies to ship stock Android and full source code. They sell hundreds of millions of phones in India and will have to find middle ground, and the outcome will be good for everyone.

Google neither uses stock Android on Pixel phone nor release full source code of pixel phones, so why should only the Chinese be forced to do that?

Before anyone downvotes or questions if Pixel uses Stock Android, ask yourself why Pixels have Pixel exclusive features not available in AOSP or not used by Android 1 phones like Nokia

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by milankragujevic »

searchableguy wrote: post #71
ffpip wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IT services Ads in default apps, user data collection and selling the said collected data.

> Ads in default apps, user data collection and selling the said collected data. That's almost everyone. Yesterday, I opened a brand new budget samsung phone. Despite not logging in anything and declining every box I could, it was automatically filled with invasive apps. It came with made in India sticker. At least with xiaomi, I can flash it with a custom rom and remove the bloatware. Many alternatives lock down the…

All Samsung phones (except those bought on carrier in USA) have unlockable bootloaders.

Xiaomi phones have a waiting period, you are required to log in with a Mi account then use the phone connected to the internet for 7 days to be able to unlock it.

Samsung here seems way more user friendly. And with Treble GSI ROMs, you can flash a custom OS on any phone, except Samsung has less problems on average with the kernel (ignoring their security features) compared to Xiaomi which requires a custom kernel in many cases to enen boot a GSI.

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Post by DarthGhandi »

glglwty wrote: post #183
jeswin wrote: post #31

What I wish India would do is this: force Chinese phone companies to ship stock Android and full source code. They sell hundreds of millions of phones in India and will have to find middle ground, and the outcome will be good for everyone.

Oneplus is one of the most lineageos-friendly vendors out there.

Right after Xaiomi's Android One models.

I own both.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by milankragujevic »

searchableguy wrote: post #78
ffpip wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung budget phones have unlockable bootloader too? Yes. I do know that. Even I use a custom rom on a redmi phone

> Samsung budget phones have unlockable bootloader too? Not consistently and many don't have much support in the ROM market anymore.

It is not true, all Samsung phones have unlockable bootloaders except those bought in the USA on carrier.

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Post by anniefrost »

rtx wrote: post #85
searchableguy wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point was that we need to do more than just a ban. > Chinese apps have always been a security risk I don't disagree. But I find this phrasing a little unclear. National security and broadly speaking security are different. Indian apps and services don't fare well in the latter category. > but there are alternatives. Yes, but why haven't they seen the same growth naturally? The top grossing page is filled with more…

Chinese government support for its companies.

Hey, US government also support its companies. They were literally forcing non-US company to sell their company to US company.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by anniefrost »

fma wrote: post #19
green-bottle wrote: post #5

Like all other internet bans in India I doubt this one will have any teeth. Everyone has a "Free" VPN app that they use to bypass these restrictions. Most people own Android phones where they can sideload apps downloaded from some third party APK website (of questionable trustworthiness) iPhones have negligible penetration in India so are not even a part of the equation.

You can say the same about Facebook and Google in China...You can sideload or use VPN. Some do. Most don't. Blocking FB & Google ecosystems allowed for China to grow their own competitors.

Google & FB were blocked because they didn't want to abide to the rules on China.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by anniefrost »

pagan42 wrote: post #158

The Chinese government mandates that every app written in China must track and trace it's users. This applies to apps running outside China but owned by Chinese companies. 1+ or Xiaomi or Huawei, they can't really do anything about it. They have to track users to be not banned.

You can also changed the Chinese to American, China to US, Xiaomi/Huawei to Apple/Android and it's all the same context.

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Post by orbifold »

metta2uall wrote: post #214
phre4k wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

X-ray it.

From my very basic understanding X-ray doesn't reveal silicon doping layers

Put it under an electron microscope then. That combined with carefully removing metal layer by layer should do the trick.

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Post by newyankee »

ffpip wrote: post #228
newyankee wrote: post #94

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If you visit r/india do visit r/indiadiscussion as well to see how r/india bans anyone that does not go against their views. It is the most censored subreddit i have ever seen and likely a battleground of information warfare. I would just suggest third party persons reading both this and above post to visit and analyze it for themselves.

r/Chodi wala ho kya? I've always heard they ban people. Never seen any proof. They ban people that abuse directly at a user I think. Or do personal promotion/spam.

Which is why i linked to r/indiadiscussion so that you can get proof.
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