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Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by danShumway » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 4:22 PM UTC

axegon_ wrote: post #74

People... Please stop using foreign alphabets like that! It's a nightmare for those of us who know the alphabets. It took me a good 20 seconds to read the title. And it's magnitudes worse when someone uses cyrillic for instance and it's native to me.

To that note, would it be possible to change the title of the submission to "Actually Portable Executable"?

It would help people focus more on the content of the article, make the submission more accessible for non-English & blind readers, and feel less spammy and exploitative, all at the same time.

I doubt the author of this article or the submitter wants this to be the top thing people are discussing about their article anyway. And that is the title -- if you go to the library source code[0], its graphical banner is using the normal English letters. The unicode weirdness here is only being used typographically, the author isn't claiming that their title should be pronounced differently or something.

[0]: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jart/cosmopolitan/46750430...

Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by jart » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 4:29 PM UTC

kokooo wrote: post #113

This is cool but this is from the source code... - License is GPL2 - If you want to be able to distribute binaries in binary only form, then please send $1,000 to Justine Tunney jtunney@gmail.com on PayPal, for a license lasting 1 year. If the goal of this project is to have something similar to cross platform web development this is the wrong way to go about it imo.

Author here. I'm sorry you feel that way. If you'd rather it be licensed ISC/MIT/BSD/etc. then please encourage your favorite member of FAANG or some other huge company to acquire Actually Portable Executable and then make it freely available under those terms, for the sake of benevolence and commitment to serving public interest. I come included.

Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by Aachen » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 4:33 PM UTC

dracodoc wrote: post #224

It's funny. In China there used to be a time when high school students like to use rarely used Chinese characters, which are only similar to the intentional character in shape instead of meaning. They think that's cool. This style was called brain damaged style. https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/63502990 什庅bai湜焱暒妏？举些瑺鼡哋唎ふ。du 什庅湜悩残軆？举些瑺鼡哋唎ふ。什庅湜zhi悱炷蓅？举些瑺鼡哋唎ふ。莓兲想埝祢巳宬儰⒈种漝惯

To be clear, "intentional" should be "intended" right? Had to read this a few times (I'm also a non-native speaker, I wonder if that makes it easier or harder for me to understand a text with meaning-altering typos/mistakes) but I think it must be this.

Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by ChrisSD » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 4:37 PM UTC

ant6n wrote: post #236

zozbot234 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TL;DR seems to be that if you restrict yourself to implementing an ISA from 20 years ago, your chip can indeed be patent free, but that isn't going to run modern software - maybe not even modern x86 32-bit software!

I thought windows runs on anything which supports extensions up to sse2, which is what amd64 includes.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min...

Devices that run Windows 10 for desktop editions require a 1 GHz or faster processor or SoC that meets the following requirements:

* Compatible with the x86* or x64 instruction set.

* Supports PAE, NX and SSE2.

* Supports CMPXCHG16b, LAHF/SAHF, and PrefetchW for 64-bit OS installation

Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by aasasd » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

latchkey wrote: post #39

snarfy wrote: post #28

Back when all you had was minicom dialing a BBS, there was a chicken and egg problem where you needed uudecode to decode any executable you downloaded. If you did not have uudecode you were stuck. If you are unfamiliar, unencoding a file allows you to send binary data through text transmission. Then a clever version of a DOS .COM file was posted which implemented uudecode, but it only used x86 instructions that were…

I remember that. Then in the early 90's it was .sit and .hqx on a Mac.

I ran into that conundrum just recently with emulating old MacOS for gaming purposes. Software on abandonware sites is distributed as images for a proprietary program. :thonk:

Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by aasasd » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 5:05 PM UTC

dracodoc wrote: post #224

It's funny. In China there used to be a time when high school students like to use rarely used Chinese characters, which are only similar to the intentional character in shape instead of meaning. They think that's cool. This style was called brain damaged style. https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/63502990 什庅bai湜焱暒妏？举些瑺鼡哋唎ふ。du 什庅湜悩残軆？举些瑺鼡哋唎ふ。什庅湜zhi悱炷蓅？举些瑺鼡哋唎ふ。莓兲想埝祢巳宬儰⒈种漝惯

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Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by sagebird » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 5:06 PM UTC

What's the challenges involved in making a actually portable executable that is a compiler that can create actually portable executables. Why muck with getting a gcc running on windows or whatever if you don't have to? If you only mess with c once a year or so, getting compilers set up is a pain.

Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by knolax » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 5:20 PM UTC

Koshkin wrote: post #233

knolax wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tʜᴇʀᴇ ᴀʀᴇ ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ᴅᴇᴅɪᴄᴀᴛᴇᴅ ᴄʜᴀʀᴀᴄᴛᴇʀs ғᴏʀ sᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘs

‘ғ‘ looks slightly weird though.

Yeah apparently the converter I used used a Cyrillic character, the actual "LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL F" is ꜰ. Also apparently there's a "LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL *" for every letter except X[0][1].

[0] https://unicode-table.com/en/search/?q=small+capital [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_caps#Unicode

Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by saagarjha » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 5:25 PM UTC

OOPMan wrote: post #189

marksomnian wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3) Actually Portable Executable There's a better option.

APE audio might come a knocking though and I'm not you sure you want to make them angry. You won't like them when they're angry...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_Enhancer might too, if Apple hadn't restricted Input Manager plugins ;)

Re: αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε

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Post by saagarjha » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 5:26 PM UTC

maartenh wrote: post #87

GuB-42 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another common one is the EICAR anti-virus test file. X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H* It is a com executable that prints EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE! It recognized by most virus scanners.

Oh, cool! I thought this file was just prefixed with some random garbage. Unrelated: I used this to verify that my daily scheduled full scan of my Linux laptop works. This is required by compliance at $WORK. It reports found viruses via the i3-nagbar.

Linux has antivirus software written for it? TIL.