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How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Re: How to stop procrastinating by using the Fogg Behavior Model

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Post by afarrell »

stronglikedan wrote: post #238
afarrell wrote: post #225

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> engineers disease what do you mean by that?

> engineers disease Just a guess: > jumping straight to proposing solutions rather than working with people to understand the problem 1st. “You think you know enough to solve the problem”. [0] [0] https://accessgranted.nz/episodes/2016/9/6/ep-98-engineers-d...

aahhhhh..... yes, they warned us about this so much in university that I've had "talk to stakeholders to really understand the nature of the problem, then keep observing" firmly lodged into my professional identity.

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Post by georgespencer »

ntsplnkv2 wrote: post #231
jw1224 wrote: post #132

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Whilst furloughed from my job during lockdown, I found myself bouncing off the walls at home consistently enough to finally seek out the ADHD diagnosis I’ve always suspected. I’m 29 years old, and one of my earliest memories is of my parents (lovingly) threatening to put an electric fence around my seat at the dinner table. I’d be up and down like a yo-yo after each mouthful. For the last 5 years, “my friend” has bee…

28 years old and just got diagnosed. Do it - it makes a difference. I was amazed how much meds helped me. I'm far more productive doing tasks that are boring.

Happy to hear of your success, and thanks for sharing and helping other people feel supported.

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Post by im3w1l »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #200
hnick wrote: post #169

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Sometimes when I am very emotionally upset or have a very negative task I want to avoid like studying, I will get the sudden urge to clean or work on a similar low-brainpower project (which is not something that comes naturally to me in normal times). If I were merely trying to feel better I'd just go for video games or something like I normally do, but there must be something else going on that directs me to focus o…

Feelings are complex. Personally, at any given time, I have two or three of sideprojects, videogames and TV shows I could focus on, each. But when I procrastinate, I end up reading HN or some subreddit or something similar, instead of coding my side projects or playing a game I've been waiting to play for the past year. I've traced that to feelings of guilt . I can't enjoy a videogame if I feel I'm only using it to e…

I'm kind of wondering if it's the brain's way of saying you should talk your problem over with other people. And HN is a sort of maladaptive (for various reasons) version of that.

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Post by vitabenes »

trabant00 wrote: post #222

When you get decently good at one thing you discover there are no recipes. There exists an infinite possible issues that can disrupt a working system and applying a few canned solutions is lottery. If you are looking at issues as a linear scale, for example a bolt from too tight or too lose, "making sure all your bolts are tight" (common tutorial type of advice) is not a very good thing. Similarly, "how to stop procr…

That's what we do in 1-on-1 coaching in our program, but it's somewhat hard to do that in an article.

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Post by vitabenes »

jvanderbot wrote: post #229

Have I mentioned how I dislike the use of "mental model" for this type of post? Or how X=Y+Z is misleading (set Z to zero, and you still have X). From post: " Behavior = motivation + ability + trigger... According to FBM, there are three things we need to do something: Motivation Ability Trigger" No, addition doesn't mean "You need all three". Multiplication does. B=M A T. AND = multiply OR = add.

Good catch, will change it.

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Post by vitabenes »

cborenstein wrote: post #164

For me, the main cause of procrastination was lack of clarity on what needs to be done. I've found that following a rigorous brain-dump process makes a big difference. For my brain-dumps, I start by jotting down a list of everything I can think of that's related to my task. I let ideas flow freely. Then I scan through what I've written and check if there's anything that's not specific and actionable. If so, I zoom in…

Yeah! Brain dumps are a great tool.

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Post by vitabenes »

chrisandchips wrote: post #130

If motivation and ability are both already there, I usually find the easiest way to move past procrastination is to choose a small-mid sized task and set a 15 minute timer. Committing to working on that task for 15 mins, even if I really dont feel like it, is usually enough to get the ball rolling.

Yeah, it's a simple technique that we also recommend. Our extension has a timer for that reason.

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Post by czbond »

georgespencer wrote: post #124
czbond wrote: post #113

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To expand - why not use it to your advantage? Consultants for larger, competitive companies do well w/ ADHD. Leaders do well. Founders do well (if they can stay focused on the opportunity). I have a CompSci degree, and loved doing algorithms, etc - but can't be bothered to sit behind an IDE for hours. So what - enough of people can do that well. I've found leadership to be the best use of skillsets where these 'sympt…

I think this is a really interesting, nuanced point. It's one I talked to my doctor about because it was a concern I felt (and feel). Thanks for sharing it here! HN is usually a good space for contrarian opinions, but even so this sort of thing might get shot down a good percentage of the time. The way I would express it is: ADHD medication curbs the downside of ADHD, but many people report and experience significant…

Thank you for sharing that.

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Post by czbond »

throwawayaug20 wrote: post #159
czbond wrote: post #113

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To expand - why not use it to your advantage? Consultants for larger, competitive companies do well w/ ADHD. Leaders do well. Founders do well (if they can stay focused on the opportunity). I have a CompSci degree, and loved doing algorithms, etc - but can't be bothered to sit behind an IDE for hours. So what - enough of people can do that well. I've found leadership to be the best use of skillsets where these 'sympt…

i have a history of failing to meet deadlines because of my procrastination. this disqualifies me for most leadership positions because i am labeled as unreliable. i am happy for you that you have been fortunate with your path.

No idea if I am ADHD, I could just have a lot of energy - because I focus well.

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Post by hbarka »

pmoriarty wrote: post #43

Some time back, I read all I could on procrastination, and watched dozens of videos on it, and by far the best thing I found on it was this video by Tim Pychyl: [1] It focuses particularly on procrastination in graduate school, but is widely applicable elsewhere. One of the key insights that Pychyl, a psychologist who studies procrastination, had is that procrastination is not (as is commonly believed) a time managem…

Thank you. I’ve saved this video to watch later.
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