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Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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I used Instagram for the first time 6 months ago because I'm old, and I was shocked that an app with such a rep for elegance is such a hodge podge of features. It really feels like they just glued a bunch of 'me too' functions onto the original core app.

Once upon a time it was quite elegant. Then, like everything Facebook acquires, it grew into a bloated "why not?" monster.

Hey, those promotions aren't going to get themselves. You have to make sure your features get into production for your year-end review.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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IMO, its elegance came from its simplicity. It did one thing and it did it well. There is an ever growing demand for new features, not necessarily from users, to fend off rivals and to stay relevant and exciting. As with a lot of popular apps and services, it ends up bloated, trying to offer everything to everyone and satisfying no one.

> It did one thing and it did it well. Except it didn't, the photo quality on Instagram is really bad because of compression and it is not possible to share actual good pictures because of that.

That's not what it meant to do - it was supposed to make your crappy early-smartphone pictures look nice with its filters.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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I still cannot believe that Twitter bought Vine, couldn't figure out what to do with it, shut it down, then had to bring it back as a read-only archive because there was so much popular outcry. At the time, the story was that all these other platforms like Instagram and Snapchat were adopting short videos, so Vine could not compete anymore. But obviously it was possible to compete, since an entirely new service --Tik…

> Once a social platform is around long enough, it becomes the thing that old people use (since its original users grow older with it)

I think this is true, but it's worth also considering the factor of how well a platform is able to keep its users segregated into their own echo chambers wherein they feel as though the platform as a whole meets their standard of what is hip and cool

Take Instagram for example. Ten years on from its inception, it's still very, very popular with 18-24 year olds isn't it? Simultaneously though, as I'm sure many Americans with a ~45 year old mother will be able to attest to, it somehow maintains very strong popularity with middle aged women too.

My idea as to how it maintains its general appeal while catering to these two disparate audiences is that its software mechanisms are carefully designed to keep both audiences separated from each other. Consequently both feel as though it's 'their' platform.

It seems that when a social media platform fails to build an intergenerational iron curtain like this, you end up with something like Facebook, where both generations gravitate away from the platform.

I admit I could be completely off the mark here though, and applying my personal experience more broadly than I should.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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> Reels' video distribution algorithm will resemble TikTok's: users will see the most popular videos at the moment, rather than a selection tailored to their individual profile. That's not how TikTok works, the feed is really good at tailoring to the stuff you actually like to watch. It's a big part of why it's so popular. > Reels differs from TikTok thanks to Instagram's augmented reality effects, which let users ov…

The part about the algorithm might be referring to when you first join TikTok. THEN it shows you the most popular videos at the moment, adjusting quickly to a more personalized feed based on viewing/interaction behaviors.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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People have been this divided for a long time. Social Media just helps exhume it better. Started in the 50s.

My sense is that lots of divided people (mainly fringe) have basically been silenced for years. Twitter has made it possible for those people to have a voice and more problematic made it super easy for malicious actors to mimic those people's ideas to make the situation worse than it really is. My (probably unpopular) opinion is that they simply shouldn't have a voice. Twitter is bad for society period.

I feel similarly. Liberal ideals would say that everyone having a global voice is a good thing, but we haven't really seen things play out that way since social media became so dominant. At least not in the US.

Though it doesn't help, of course, that TwitFaceTube are designed to maximize engagement at the expense of everything else, which encourages inflammatory content. Maybe if they didn't, we wouldn't have this problem.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Marketing/business side always demand prime real-estate to push 'features' instead of just blending them into the UI. This is extra-apparent on mobile apps but FB did it on their website for years (I haven't seen what it looks like recently). It's not easy to say no as a designer but the best companies are the ones most capable of keeping things as focused on primary UX flows as possible. TikTok figured this out by m…

Let’s ship features! To heck with what users may need or want!

That's right, in FBs case user != customer

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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People seem to underestimate how important a name can be. "Instagram Reels", "Reels", "IG Reels"... they have no buzz, they're clunky to say, and like you said, it already implies ancient uncool tech. The marketing people must have been phoning it in when they named this.

I obviously don't speak a generation but I'm in the target demo and I like the name. "Did you see X's reel the other day?" to me feels better than "Did you see X's tiktok the other day?"

I am also in the target demo, do not like the product, but the name sounds pretty good. Like "Have you seen her story?" "Did you see her last reel?" just sounds nice.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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> Facebook launches its TikTok clone, Instagram Reels

FTFY.

I'm being facetious of course. The real clone here is being done by the US gov't, who is copying the Chinese playbook: keep out a foreign company by political means, thus encouraging local competitors.

I guess it's really true that you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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