New German law would force ISPs to allow secret service to install trojans

Post by anoncake » Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 7:37 AM UTC

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mschuster91 wrote: post #141

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> Whoever proposed it should be ashamed of themselves Name and shame: Interior Minister Horst Seehofer of the conservative-authoritarian CSU. He and his party friends are who want this. We have the chance to kick them out of office in 2021, it's time for the stranglehold of Conservative internet-printers (Internetausdrucker, a German word for tech illiterates) as Interior Ministers to end once and for all .

> Conservative internet-printers By association Otto Schily wasn't a conservative and yet...

Post by feanaro » Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 1:51 PM UTC

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metachris wrote: post #210

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Browsers and operating systems include a list of root certificates which includes those of various governments. Pretty much any government can thus issue valid HTTPS certificates for any domain to MITM traffic.

Part of dns actually prevents that. So long as you are using a browser that has implemented its use, dnd entries specifify the public signing key of the destination server, so if the browser receives a packet signed using a different certificate the Browser will prevent you from navigating there. I know for a fact that Chrome and Firefox have implemented this as standard behavior specifically to prevent this kind of…

Post by int_19h » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 6:02 PM UTC

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The scary stuff about the current development is, that we get flooded with arguments about hardcore criminals, but if you look at the actual changes to the laws, such restrictions are not made, instead these extreme measures are allowed for petty reasons and some politicians will still keep pushing for even more totalitarianism. These siloviki want mass surveillance comparable to what Chinas Ministry of State Securit…

> It does not matter if Germany is not ruled by an autocratic regime at the moment I totally get the appeal of that argument, but it completely breaks down once I ask myself how much that autocratic bogeyman regime, once it got into power, would feel bound by privacy protections put in place by their predecessors.