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A purge of white supremacists sounds great to me.
What was the problem with /r/ConsumeProduct exactly?
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YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
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Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is coordinated. Remember when Alex Jones got banned from literally everything on the same day? The reddit bans wave was leaked in advance. The more actors involved in a coordinated action the harder it is to keep a secret. Original leak: https://old.reddit.com/r/WatchRedditDie/comments/hh1pjd/redd...
>It is coordinated. Is there any evidence of this besides the announcements just happening on the same day? It could be companies waiting to announce these moves on Monday morning after days of seeing Facebook embroiled in controversy for not doing this. Or maybe one company decided to make this move and other companies fast tracked anything they had planned on this so they wouldn't be viewed as ignoring this issue.…
> We have no indication one way or another whether this is coordinated. We shouldn't just assume it is coordinated because it is happening on the same day.
Hey, just because two planes flew into the WTC on the same day, we have no indication one way or another whether this is coordinated. We shouldn't just assume it is coordinated because it is happening on the same day.
But really, this is obviously coordinated. It's also well known that these kinds of things are done in a coordinated manner (see Alex Jones), and it's pretty much the approach any sane person would take. You don't want to stretch it out over weeks and keep this topic in the news. You cut once, cut deep, and get over it.
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fair, but is the distinction actually important in this case? It seems to me to be more of a means of obfuscating/derailing the discussion of Molyneux's views.
It is important, because it implies Molyneux would take steps to build such a state, when he wouldn't on principle. Molyneux is an anarcho-capitalist: he desires there to be no state at all.
It just happens to be a convenient feature of said anarcho-capitalist society that he would be free to oppress non-whites. You're cherry picking one particular argument he makes without considering his other espoused beliefs.
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#244I haven't watched Stefan in a long time, is he now producing content in the same register as David Duke & Richard Spencer ? It did not seem to be the case a few years ago.
I used to listen to Stefan Molyneux about 10 years ago because he had some interesting views on free market economics. Now I look him up on Wikipedia and find out he's turned into a white nationalist. What the hell happened?
The same thing appears to be happening with Scott Adams (author of the Dilbert comic strips).
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I don't remember Stefan Molyneux saying anything racist. Can someone share an example?
There's a collection of racist quotes from him here: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/indi...
All source videos are removed. No way to double check things anymore. :(
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#246Christ, spez is getting hammered in the announcements. I mean seriously, he's basically saying it's alright to be discriminatory against the "majority", whatever that means. Dude doesn't even clarify what that means, just skirts around the question.
Lot of people are wondering why r/BlackPeopleTwitter or r/politics haven't been banned despite blatant racism or calls to violence. People are pretty pissed at spez, to say the least.
Also, kudos to that one user pointing out how 10 mods oversee 90% of subreddits.[1]
I've linked the thread[0]. The comments pointing the insanity are highlighted
What a trainwreck but oh well, enjoy being the next Digg plebbit.
[0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/hi3oht/updat... [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/hi3oht/updat...
Edit: "Spez, answer the fucking question. So is it according to reddit policy, a white person can’t say “all black people are bad” but a black person can say “all white people are bad”? If this is the case, this is racist" (LMAO)
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
“While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate.” https://www.reddithelp.com/en/categories/rules-reporting/acc...
> For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority Are they serious? So basically racism is OK as long as it's toward people who are the majority?
Reddit adopts the "Prejudice + Power" definition of racism, not the actual definition of racism
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#248There's a problem here that is too rarely discussed: When we do finally achieve substantial decentralized agency for ideas and media, which cannot be censored, it will be tainted in its roots by the fact that these jackasses are the people who will flock to it first. How can we build a censorship-resistant society where the most creative, peaceful, unifying ideas are the basis of our dialogue?
i think the problem is, some types of groups/ideologies work very well over social media (accusatory messages, memes, rumors, conspiracies) while others that are more thoughtful dont seem to do as well, because they take patience and time to go through
so, in an "open market" it becomes harder to shut down bad ideas with "open debate" (which i would argue we need a way to do, now more than ever)
i think until there is some way to do this in a general way - some kind of "anti-twitter" - these kinds of bannings will just keep happening because no one seems to really know how what to do otherwise...
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
“While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate.” https://www.reddithelp.com/en/categories/rules-reporting/acc...
> “While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate.” So according to this rule, a racial minority can call members of a "majority race" sub-human, but not vice-versa. And yet, majority/minority are regional properties. How do you know a redditor's re…
> So according to this rule, a racial minority can call members of a "majority race" sub-human, but not vice-versa.
According to academia, this is correct: racism only exists in the context of class based oppression.
Of course, many people disagree with this definition.
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
This appears to be coordinated election interference from tech monopolists.
Please explain. In which districts in the United States are neo-Nazis affiliated with Stefan Molyneux, David Duke (former leader of the KKK), and Richard Spencer (who was videoed performing a Sieg Heil) up for election, as challengers or incumbents? I was not aware these men were employed by one of the two major political parties, or even one of the two smaller ones. If the specific figures being banned are not affil…
It's probable he is referring to the also announced ban of Donald Trump's Twitch channel.