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536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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The White Island eruption was forecasted though. It's just that tourists kept going there regardless.

whoa any forecast reports? I think the tourists are suing the tourism companies right now

They were at an elevated alert level weeks before the event and the tourism company made explicit notice that they go no matter what the alert level but there's always a risk. Good luck w/ the lawsuit is all I can say. The linked Wikipedia page has details.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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In what sense have we “recovered” from supply chain disruptions? I go to the store and still routinely see empty shelves where TP should be; have experienced meat shortages in recent days; and stores are still rationing things like hand sanitizer (when you can find it), canned goods, meat, and rice.

> I go to the store and still routinely see empty shelves where TP should be; Huh, so that is why Google Maps keeps asking me whether TP was in stock every time I go the store - I did not realize there were still actual shortages on that elsewhere, I thought it was just a couple of days of panicing in March and that Google was just being weird / behind the times. FWIW, I haven't noticed such disruptions here (Finland…

Why is Google asking you if TP is in stock at the store? Or I guess through what app is Google sending you these questions?

I haven't heard of push notifications or whatever it is asking for feedback on in-store items.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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In my state we're going to have a serious problem if the outbreaks in our farming communities continue to grow. There are like 3 counties here that we are utterly dependent on for all our local food and they're all just now entering the "exponential" stage on the epidemiological curve.

California? TBH, if the farming areas of California get seriously affected, the entire country is going to suffer. California produces a lot of food.

Eastern Washington is now facing this with their ag workers and it's not a good situation right now.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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You kidding me? We're all getting the coke. Just because you're not Scarface doesn't avoid the fact that all of us are awash in plastics, silicone, rare earth metals, concrete, steel, precious metals, alloys, goods from far flung lands, industrial agriculture and many assumptions about available services that rely on the same and ravenous upstream fossil fuel consumption. We (as human consumers) never had it so good,…

This is a xomolete misinterpretation of today's economic and resource situation. The real tragedy is that all this is a conpletely unneccesary wanton destruction. Thrre is no coke, it serves no purpose. Pick amy product on a supermarket shelf or on Amazon, and you wil find that raw materials account for maybe 20% of its final price tops. They are called commodities for a reason, and its production of those raw materi…

It's often said that most of the (developed world) economy depends on consumers. Rich people tend to have a greater proportion of financial assets compared to consumption. When people criticize the rich, it's pretty standard to say they're stingy, they hoard wealth etc. Conversely when the rich consume, they're at least "creating jobs".

So that seems to imply to me that ordinary people (in the rich countries) shouldn't be underestimated from an environmental perspective, and because our morality is pro-consumer it reinforces waste. I don't think that's brainwashing by the rich, I think that's just how people are, in Western society at least.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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I didn’t say it was a failure of capitalism, merely a property. Had it become necessary to do so, yes, I would have either ordered some commercial TP, or bought a bidet. Now, if you want to talk about how we have zillions of brands of TP, but they’re all made by the same handful of companies (illusion of choice), I might argue that’s a failure mode of capitalism. #ShitYouCantSayOnHN

sorry, I've seen so many memes lately comparing US grocery stores to soviet bread lines that I read a bit of that sentiment into your comment. it was a bit unsettling to see how much stuff was out of stock in the first few weeks of the crisis and wonder whether that was going to get better or worse. now the greatest hardship I face is having to settle for my second favorite brand of eggs sometimes. overall, I'm surpr…

I've been seeing local or regional brands that the grocery store never used to carry, that apparently are being used to fill gaps in the supply chain. Not inferior substitutes, but things that make me ask why the heck didn't they carry these before? It makes me feel like, although yes, regulating markets can harm them, but there were problems, there must have been corruption, the distribution system wasn't handed down from on high by an invisible hand, etc.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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post #114

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In what sense have we “recovered” from supply chain disruptions? I go to the store and still routinely see empty shelves where TP should be; have experienced meat shortages in recent days; and stores are still rationing things like hand sanitizer (when you can find it), canned goods, meat, and rice.

IDK where you live (and I won't ask! because I respect privacy and stuff), but in central Texas (Austin) and most of the urban markets I have been to (HEB, Central Market, Randall's, Trader Joe's, all the regional BBQ joints), I don't think I have seen any disruption in anything the whole time, except TP, briefly hand-sanitizer and a pop in the price of milk. I'm guessing the first two (at least) were because of peop…

Occam's razor says it's because Texans mostly ignored the epidemic in general.

That's why yesterday there were 3,787 new cases in TX and 803 in NY.

But NY is reopening and cases are going up, so maybe things will change.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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The Eastern supply chains are mostly restored but liquid soap, alcohol, Lysol, and other cleaners are unobtanium. Some frozen foods are still cleared out because nobody is eating out and stores haven't compensated for the demand.

Thanks. It's hard to get nation-wide reports by chain. All I see are pictures on social media of outraged people going: "Why don't we have any sock-eye salmon? And Look! The shelves are empty!". Surely data are the aggregate set of anecdotes, but while I see a lot of spot anecdotes, I don't see much data.

What I'm seeing in the NY state capital is that the stuff that was out of stock early on like toilet paper, paper towels, kleenex, flour, etc. returned some times ago, but seems to still be rationed to one or two per person per day. I don't find this to be a hardship, but I don't shop for a big family.

However, I just saw packets of yeast for sale again. That was the last thing that I had trouble finding.

But take my observations with a grain of salt, because part of my response (and maybe others) to COVID is that I haven't felt like shopping around much; I mostly just go to one store and make do with what's there.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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I know this is pedantic, but based on the order of events in the article wouldn’t 543 be the worst year to be alive? By then you would have experienced the cumulative horror of starving and freezing through two volcanic events and watching a third to half of your friends and family die of plague. 536 would have a been frightening and confusing as the volcanic fog began to roll in, but you couldn’t know the terror of…

Objectively you are right, subjectively I think what matters is short term contrast. 535 vs 536 has a much steeped drop in quality of life than 542 vs 543.

But the title is "worst year to be alive", so while the contrast of 536 was likely the biggest, measured objectively by food availability, life expectancy etc 543 was the worst.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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In my state we're going to have a serious problem if the outbreaks in our farming communities continue to grow. There are like 3 counties here that we are utterly dependent on for all our local food and they're all just now entering the "exponential" stage on the epidemiological curve.

California? TBH, if the farming areas of California get seriously affected, the entire country is going to suffer. California produces a lot of food.

Or, you know, people are just going to buy from closer to home. Smaller businesses are very motivated to find new markets, and distributors need to fill demand. I'm seeing this happen in real time whenever I go to the store. If you think of buying local as purely an ineffectual self-righteous movement for people with too much money you might not notice when it becomes a wave based on economics.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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post #114

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IDK where you live (and I won't ask! because I respect privacy and stuff), but in central Texas (Austin) and most of the urban markets I have been to (HEB, Central Market, Randall's, Trader Joe's, all the regional BBQ joints), I don't think I have seen any disruption in anything the whole time, except TP, briefly hand-sanitizer and a pop in the price of milk. I'm guessing the first two (at least) were because of peop…

Occam's razor says it's because Texans mostly ignored the epidemic in general. That's why yesterday there were 3,787 new cases in TX and 803 in NY. But NY is reopening and cases are going up, so maybe things will change.

Idk. In Austin, they were pretty strict. Nothing was open- stores (besides grocery and gas, I think?) - no shops, restaurants, bars, hair cuts (i need one), dentists, clinics, eye doctors, parks, DMV, churches, funerals.

I don't know about the rest of Texas, but the mayor here pretty much shut it down.

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