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Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by dicknuckle » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:07 AM UTC

p2detar wrote: post #161

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

I kind of do have "fun" with GH. I follow people and see what repos they have starred, or code/issues they're working on. I also follow repos and check the source code that's being committed from time to time. Just for fun, to learn new stuff. The "Explore repositories" option did help me to find a couple of interesting repos. I feel that at some point GH decided to distance themselves from the social aspect of the p…

This is how I have "fun" with it as well. O wouldn't even consider myself a developer but thanks to my interest in Docker, GitHub has been a source of fun and now I maintain an automated build that integrates both platforms and now has 100k downloads.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by fit2rule » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:08 AM UTC

I wish I could do all the Github things from the command line somehow - get a lit of all my starred projects, turn watches on and off, etc.

The whole thing would be so much more useful if it weren't wrapped up in a web interface, and if I could script my interaction with my repo's better ..

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by jiofih » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:10 AM UTC

tasubotadas wrote: post #181

jiofih wrote: post #154

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It’s about GitHub, the platform, not git the VCS.

I thought you mainly interface with github via git but apparently most people go there to chat.

I don’t get the sarcasm. GitHub, the website, where you make pull requests, issues, discuss them, explore forks and other projects, see their activity and connect to other developers. All very tangential to git.

If you never used any of that it’s fine, though you missed out on a very nice side of OSS.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by bregma » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:11 AM UTC

jspash wrote: post #88

nikanj wrote: post #44

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Social network features are such a 2015 me-too fad feature anyway. What they should add is AI, or maybe blockchain.

And a monorail!

And my axe.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by gspr » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:12 AM UTC

Carpetsmoker wrote: post #229

gspr wrote: post #191

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That doesn't sound abrasive at all to me. It's just a normal technical disagreement. What am I missing?

You don't think it's strange for a service provider to tell people that "mercurial isn't suitable for this" (even though it clearly works, and has been working for many years) and "you're writing your program wrong"? It's fine to not support certain use cases because it's too much effort or otherwise too expensive. It's not fine to, as a service provider, tell people that their programs are (and I quote) "wrong". If…

> You don't think it's strange for a service provider to tell people that "mercurial isn't suitable for this" (even though it clearly works, and has been working for many years) and "you're writing your program wrong"?

No, not really, if done politely. Which seems to be the case here.

It also might "work" to use a large crystal vase as a hammer, but it's still "doing it wrong".

If anything, I'd fault sr.ht for having too vague usage policies and then telling users they are in violation of said policies. That's not good. But they are in alpha, so hopefully it's something that'll improve.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by bhupesh » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:15 AM UTC

I occasionally use the Trending page, but I agree with the OP on projects getting attraction because someone who has 12k followers on twitter shared a static page website.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by mihaaly » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:16 AM UTC

artsyca wrote: post #240

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

If it ain't fun why do it?

Because it is important? Well, actually doing important things is kind of fun, so never mind.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by Wingy » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:16 AM UTC

6510 wrote: post #205

threeseed wrote: post #66

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My favourite fad of the last few decades is: sorting. You know because in Github you can't even sort your list of repositories.

HTML cant even sort

JS can though, so can Ruby.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by IggleSniggle » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:22 AM UTC

majewsky wrote: post #172

marcus_holmes wrote: post #148

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I'm not sure Github stars were/are ever an indicator of "good quality" or even "interesting". And I think the Web Development community could do with a decent break from "new" as well. What would be great is if we could just prune some of the gajillion frameworks and libraries already out there, and spend some time to make the ones we keep decently robust and elegant.

GitHub stars suffer from the same problem as likes on Twitter or Facebook. A social network would actually need three separate kinds of positive interactions: - a like ("I want to let the creator know I like this.") - a share ("I want my followers to know about this.") - a bookmark ("I want to be able to find this again later.") Most social networks only have the first two. GitHub, even worse, only has one. (I person…

Yes, exactly. I'm more likely to star a small project that I find interesting even if flawed because I don't want to lose track of it. I don't really understand why I would need or want to star React or Nodejs for example. There is zero chance I lose track of those projects.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by kelnos » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:23 AM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #164

jaekash wrote: post #140

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Atlassian products is a collection of poorly integrated and maintained applications each with serious issues which Atlassian refuses to fix. Atlassian is basically where things go to die.

If Atlassian products is a collection of poorly integrated what to say about plenty of enterprise solutions? I am yet to find something that works as good as Atlassian products.

I disagree with the parent that they're poorly integrated. They're probably better-integrated than most other options out there. IMO the real problem with Atlassian products is that individually they are not good. Confluence is a bad wiki, Jira is a bad issue/project tracker, Bitbucket is a bad source code management tool.

Individually they all have a lot of flaws to the point that if they only existed on their own, no one would use them. But features like native support for referencing Jira issues in Confluence and having them auto-update makes companies want to use it.

Part of it, I think, is the development tool version of "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM". It's considered the safe choice. Enterprise-y companies get wooed by all the "Atlassian consultants" floating around out there. The ecosystem is just designed to attract enterprise users.