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Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by bachmeier »

ericax wrote: post #178

Notion is great, I used to want to build my knowledge base in it, but figured it's not future-proof enough for my needs. And that's part of the reason we went on to build Obsidian ( https://obsidian.md/ ), the local-first knowledge base app. Everything is in plain text Markdown. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/zof4zCj.png Just released 0.6.0 and here's a video for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA…

I've been using Obsidian. It's obviously still a work in progress, but it's pretty good already. The killer feature for me is that I don't need to put my data in someone else's cloud. Hoping for basic outlining features. That would make it a superapp.

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Post by treebornfrog »

pcx wrote: post #49

I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…

Regarding your first point, totally agree 100%.

I want to use notion, it's such a nice UI/UX. Problem is, it's just too complicated.

Trello is basic, but gets the job done.

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Post by tommoor »

intopieces wrote: post #69
avolcano wrote: post #5

This is kinda weird, because I was happily giving them $4/month after running out of space in their trial plan, and now I absolutely have no reason to keep giving them money. Which, sure, I guess I'll take it. My $4/month isn't going to make or break their business and they probably barely give a shit about getting money for personal usage. Does remind me that my usage of their app doesn't align with their business m…

Are there any open source Notion alternatives? This is the main benefit of open source software, in my mind: no one can "take" it from you because it doesn't belong to "them" in the same way that a product does.

Outline could be an alternative if your main usecase was internal team documentation. I understand that Notion can be used for a lot of other things too…

It is BSL licensed, the only restriction is that you cannot run a hosted version for other organizations to use (aka compete with the only way the project maintains itself).

https://www.getoutline.com/

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Post by wintermutestwin »

zwaps wrote: post #167

Question to web-devs: I am using firefox with ublock. Notion, like a few other pages, load only as blank for me. The only thing I have disabled are cookies and connections to trackers or ads. But cookies are not necessary to load a page. And adblocking is standard. Does anyone know the reason?

Do you have Privacy Badger running in firefox? It blocks hCaptcha, which Notion uses (unfortunately).

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by ericax »

rtisdale wrote: post #236
ericax wrote: post #178

Notion is great, I used to want to build my knowledge base in it, but figured it's not future-proof enough for my needs. And that's part of the reason we went on to build Obsidian ( https://obsidian.md/ ), the local-first knowledge base app. Everything is in plain text Markdown. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/zof4zCj.png Just released 0.6.0 and here's a video for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA…

Nifty! I just placed in a beta request. A business partner and I heavily prefer to utilize markdown for note taking (we generally use Typora) but this poses problems when we are trying to colaborate on a document together. Does Obsidian support real time collaborative editing?

Thanks for the interest!

Not yet, currently most of our users bring their own sync (Dropbox etc.), so if you edit the same document in real time that might create conflict copies.

We're working on a sync service with end-to-end encryption (for convenience, completely optional), and we might improve it to support real-time collaboration in the future.

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Post by marvinblum »

dive wrote: post #208

I tried the Notion twice. It looks good, works fine and has a reasonable price. But. You cannot write notes in this application. Literally. You can build tables, resize images, align lists in different shapes, have a dashboard for all thousand cases you have with favourites photos as headers, filter views with a million conditions, manage to-dos and project with kanban, ..., but you cannot write simple notes. The int…

Hey there, we've thought about that too and came up with a new user interface concept. Emvi [1] supports interlinked articles already and you can search through your notes easily. But we found the current user interface to inefficient for both, simple note taking and collaboration. You can read about our new concept here: https://emvi.com/blog/a-new-experimental-user-interface-QMZg...

It will come out in about three weeks and we're always curious about feedback :)

[1] https://emvi.com/

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by tablet »

riquito wrote: post #212
tablet wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good points. It seems you might enjoy Fibery[1], it addresses most of these problems (and has internal whiteboard as draw.io replacement as well). But I’m biased as a Fibery founder. [1] https://fibery.io

It's customary to mention any involvement when suggesting a product

Thanks for advice, I’ll improve!

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Post by kmfrk »

pcx wrote: post #49

I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…

I really need a better index of all my notes, right now it's just too overwhelming without a better way of organizing everything, especially since it automatically collapses all my workspace trees when I close the app. Really gets in the way of using it beyond a handful of pages.

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Post by franky47 »

paxys wrote: post #56
franky47 wrote: post #23

The one thing that bothers me about Notion (and Slack and other "everything in one place" tools), is the lack of encryption. I might have FAANGophobia, but whenever there is a free tier without a form of end-to-end encryption in place, it feels like a data puddle waiting to become a lake. That being said, having clear-text data would allow features like an API on publicly shared pages/blocks, to use Notion as a CMS.…

I'm assuming you are talking about end-to-end encryption, which in case of tools like Slack doesn't really make sense because it's the company that owns and has total control of the data, not you the end user. What happens when they need to hand over records for discovery, for example?

Please elaborate what you mean by discovery ?

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Post by marvinblum »

nyxtom wrote: post #215

It actually deters me away that there is default content already there when I load the app. In my opinion, less is more and starting off with no content at all is a helpful cleaner alternative than having to delete all that default content.

True, but it sometimes helps to get you started. We wrote a simple "Get started" article for Emvi [1] which can be deleted quickly. But users send us mails asking for documentation, which we will add after beta. It's nice to have this documentation inside your workspace, but can get in your way too. I haven't decided what to prever.

[1] https://emvi.com/

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