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Post by dbspin »

CapricornNoble wrote: post #161
maceurt wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be cool if anybody else could make a real competitor to youtube then Google would have to actually cater more to content creators. However, sadly I think youtube is just too far ahead and google has way to many resources and time spent in the space for any competitor to even be able to make a dent into youtube's market.

The people behind PornHub need to make a "PeopleHub" site for hosting non-pornographic content. Use the same business model, which seems to work well for the "Pro-Am" content creators on PH. That, or BitChute needs to finally release a mobile app.

BitChute is a cesspit of genuinely hateful and extremist content. That alone keeps away a majority of creators and viewers. It's like a silo school for kids who've been expelled from all the other schools in the area. Only in this case the bad kids are advocating genocide and racewar.

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Post by hpcjoe »

eitland wrote: post #175
chii wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This concept of de-platforming is becoming more and more prevailant. The big techs cannot differentiate between legitimate de-platforming vs a Denial of Service de-platforming. I think while the big techs have a legitimate concern for de-platforming things that are deemed hate speech, this same power can be utilized by individuals to target a de-platforming for people whose opinions they don't like. I think big techs…

> The big techs cannot differentiate between legitimate de-platforming I can try to give some guidelines, I'd love to see improvements (and also like to know if anyone points out I'm wrong :-) Legitimate de-platforming is a) when an individual or organization is removed from the platform based on a request from law enforcement followed by a review by the platforms staff to verify that the request is genuine and that…

I was at Joyent when we deplatformed some group. The vast majority of the company was for this action, based upon what they interpreted as "their values." Their values were not shared in whole across the entire company. Some of us believed that speech, no matter how repugnant it is, should not be constricted.

This is the nature of the 1st amendment in the US. The government cannot restrain speech.

A private company was another matter. They can do whatever they want, within the boundaries of law. 1st amendment doesn't apply in this case.

The concern I had was that this would become "easier", and more frequent.

It has. This was the nature of my concern, that the slope would be more slippery.

Justifications for banning are getting "easier". Groups celebrate this deplatforming as "victories."

No one seems to worry much about the long term consequences of this. Well, Cloudfare did for a while, but then it stopped.

Right now, its hard for me to tell if bans are for ToS violations, or political wrongthink. I am troubled by this. ToS violations are generally fine, as long as the ToS aren't onerous. Most aren't. Wrongthink violations ... think of when the political winds shift, and when current rightthink becomes wrongthink.

Niemöller's poem[1] becomes an apt metaphor in this case.

[1] https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-nie...

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by hpcjoe »

fortran77 wrote: post #132
hpcjoe wrote: post #116

I keep hearing stories about similar issues. Suddenly someone is terminated from a Google service for unknown reasons, without any possibility of reversing such decisions. This appears to be true of Twitter and others as well. From my vantage point, it appears to be quite arbitrary. And quite concerning in a number of cases, given the centralization of email, docs, etc. I do make backups of google content every so of…

Twitter isn't arbitrary or unknown, though. You can easily predict with near certain accuracy who will get permanently banned for a controversial tweet and who won't. YouTube is more hit or miss.

Not sure why you are getting downvoted over this. It is pretty close to what I observe.

Express "wrongthink" and you will get banned.

That should terrify everyone. As you don't know what rightthink and wrongthink are. They can, and do, change with time.

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Post by tjpnz »

ekianjo wrote: post #194
lightwin wrote: post #149

Looks like youtube account has been restored. Update from the medium article: >> UPDATE: We’re back as of 8:39pm EDT April 11, 2020! I received the following email from YouTube: Hi there, After a review of your account, we have confirmed that your YouTube account is not in violation of our Terms of Service. As such, we have unsuspended your account. This means your account is once again active and operational. If you…

No apologies?

That would be an admission of guilt.

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Post by badassiel »

Some people are saying self-hosting content is the way to go. People interested pursuing that way can look into "IPFS". There's lot of tools to make the "hosting" part easy (static websites are easy on bare IPFS it self) Some keywords to search for are DTube, Temporal, Textile. I'm already on way to self-host my data, hope you can get on bandwagon as well.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by Suncho »

rdc12 wrote: post #218
lightwin wrote: post #149

Looks like youtube account has been restored. Update from the medium article: >> UPDATE: We’re back as of 8:39pm EDT April 11, 2020! I received the following email from YouTube: Hi there, After a review of your account, we have confirmed that your YouTube account is not in violation of our Terms of Service. As such, we have unsuspended your account. This means your account is once again active and operational. If you…

I hope they they create an archive of their content to prevent being in a position they can loose it all again

Done.

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Post by mceachen »

benhurmarcel wrote: post #240
mceachen wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make sure you get a Google Takeout, but realize that much of the image metadata is deleted (and sometimes outright changed) from the originals. My takeout failed with an write until I requested an archive that was only photos, and only a year-subset of my library (which required me to make a manual album). I also tried the open source "timeliner" project, (which does incremental backups very conveniently), but due to…

Is there a method for automatic backup of Google Photos? Something that a script could do, without manually using Google Takeout. Also, is there another service to backup photos that doesn't modify the data? I was thinking of using Nextcloud. But the prices for Google One are quite attractive.

https://github.com/mholt/timeliner is the script I referenced, and it does incremental backups. It is limited by what Google's API exposes, though, so what you get back is not what you uploaded: it's got many tags stripped, including GPS.

It's really best to back up the originals that are on your phone. SyncThing and Resilio will do that automatically to your NAS.

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Post by koheripbal »

realusername wrote: post #159
LeoPanthera wrote: post #131

How many Google accounts are arbitrarily nuked, and host content that is not famous enough to make the front page of HN, or Reddit, or some other noisy social media site?

A lot of them, I have two Gmail accounts randomly locked and one Ads account randomly locked as well.

Was it really "randomly"? Wasn't there some sort of behavior that got caught in their algos?
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