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South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Sadly, the video quality there isn't quite what I would get from pirated versions - to put it mildly. And considering that cartoon style videos don't even need much bandwidth for good quality to begin with, this seems really weird.

Hm? The quality is just fine IME if you set it to high / HD / whatever.

Maybe I'm just blind. I found a bunch of font settings, some color settings (backgrounds etc.) and language. But no quality setting.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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> Does Polish draw the same distinctions as English, I wonder? It does, and propagating totalitarian ideologies is banned by law, while propagating for example monarchy - isn't.

That sounds like a recipe for entertaining case law! "I plead not guilty your honor, for whilst it's true that we wish to overthrow Polish democracy and install a supreme leader for life, we would call him King! Long live the king!" "Oh, that's alright then. Not guilty!" :)

Advocating/preparing/performing a coup is punished no matter what system you want to change into. But propagating totalitarian systems is illegal even if you don't want to do it with a coup.

Also we don't do case law here (if I understand what "case law" means).

On related note we've got hilarious court case where neonazis from ONR were explaining to the court they weren't doing "heil hitler" salute to propagate nazism, but to celebrate Roman traditions. SS signs were for reenactment and swastikas as everybody knows are Hindu symbols of good luck.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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They used to think that economic freedom would be the trojan horse for social freedoms. Quite the opposite I see.

Having been in China around 1983 and recently there are more social freedoms now but still a long way to go.

There may progress inland, but that's no excuse to let regression happen outside.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Yes it is a thing (albeit more subtle, which makes satire better or worse depending on your taste). I was able to read Chinese satire on U.S. gun shootings and PC issues quite frequently. I guess my issue with things like this SP episode and these kind of satire in general, is that they only seem to focus on one important but partial aspect of one nation. To joke on American PC issues seems fun to many in China, but…

>Yes it is a thing I think GP was talking about satire of your own country, not propaganda about other countries. Reminds me of the old joke: Q: Is it true that there is freedom of speech in the Soviet Union, just like in the USA? A: In principle, yes. In the USA, you can stand in front of the White House in Washington, DC, and yell, "Down with Reagan!", and you will not be punished. Equally, you can also stand in Re…

Well satire about Xi (and winnie the pooh) is also quite a thing, obviously censored in the most prominent channels, but still quite visible. I mean, I only say that because I assume the context ("i wonder if China has copied SP and if so how they would portray the USA") was SP satirizing China, so I offered the Chinese parallel.

And I just have to say it. The satire I am talking about comes from the actual citizens. They are not propaganda.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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"machine-generated" because my English mode still cold. I'm learning English with RNN, it takes awhile.

I apologise: that remark was unfair and out of line. I was over-tired and jumped to a conclusion. Thanks also for the clarification: now I understand what you were saying.

Actually, me should be the one who apologize.

Sometime I just somehow prioritized to send message out when I should be making a better statement. Which already caused multiple misunderstandings on HN alone. I should definitely try not to do that anymore.

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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I'm not a South Park fan, but that ban got my interested so I watched the episode (Yeah, that episode is banned in China and few "reposter"s has been warned for posting South Park related contents). Few days ago, a guy been sent to jail for 7 days because he was complaining the National Day military parade, saying something like "A civilized nation turn machine into soldier; a rouge nation turn soldier into machine".…

Is there an "underground" in China of people criticising the government and supporting hong kong, tibet, etc? If yes, how many people?

I know an online forum if that counts, https://pincong.rocks (Chinese, Browse with Tor) they're pretty anti-CCP in my opinion, and the only one I know of.

I don't agreed with many of their posts, but if you want to waste your time in the chaotic Chinese political small talks, then maybe that's one place to look at. Also, keep in mind that you reading small talks there, so take everything with a grain of salt.

I personally acquire most of the information on Twitter. I followed many people who working in the IT or related fields, and sometime they retweet political related stuff (As joke or mock mostly). This is how I know about that South Park episode.

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You’re mistaking “both sides” with the ability and willingness to skewer anyone. Take a step back and it’s easy to see politics across the spectrum is ripe for satire.

That's not exactly what I'm saying. The "both sides" approach allows you to use that as evidence of neutrality. I've never seen South Park as neutral. Its critique of American liberalism is surface level, its critique of American conservatism (whatever that means these days) was fundamental and ideological. Moreover, I never saw the satire as much more than superficial. Which is fine, I always thought it funny but ne…

Like editorial cartoons have done for over a century, changing the context lets the viewer observe whether their surface beliefs are consistent with their intuitions and principles.

I tend to find the degree of depth in South Park is entirely a function of whether you agree with their editorial position and/or whether you've already engaged with that line of thinking elsewhere. (And like every TV show ever, some episodes are good, some are stinkers.)

Re: South Park Responds to Being Banned in China for “Band in China”

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Gave an Asian actress in a minor role "too much" screen time. Apparently.

That entire plot and her in ep 8 was pointless. Obvious pandering

What show are we talking about?
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