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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by fortran77 »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #225
leesec wrote: post #214

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Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

Especially the "3" owners. There are so many cut-corners on the "3" yet the owners of this budget car will explain away it all.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by tw04 »

leesec wrote: post #214
Shivetya wrote: post #199

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Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Right, because those vendors were smart enough to add support for Android auto and carplay and leave it to Google and apple.

I have a model y on order, but if they can't figure out infotainment soon I'll likely cancel it. I spend way too much time driving to deal with garbage infotainment.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by rainyMammoth »

leesec wrote: post #236
rainyMammoth wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

Yeah so I don't care about the blutooth because my car DRIVES ITSELF a big percent of the time. it's fundamentally changed how I view driving. Stop and Go traffic no longer makes me mad. Road trips no longer exhaust me. There's probably some issues but none that I care about. It feels like driving the future. It's an absolute joy to drive. No gas stations is pretty nice too.

I'm driving a Toyota Corolla with lane assist which does 95% of what Tesla "Self Driving" does. It accelerates and brakes for me in traffic, and correct courses to stay in my lane. This is a 18k$ car and I would not accept trading Bluetooth issues with fancy parking summon features.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Fins »

damon_c wrote: post #230
rainyMammoth wrote: post #225

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Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

It's not that complicated. Drive one and you will see that they are pretty different from any other car in a number of ways.

Well, after I drove one I liked it even less. But if some people enjoy paying Mercedes prices for Yugo quality, all the power to them. Although regularly driving into firetrucks costs us as taxpayers money. But then fleecing taxpayers is the major part of Tesla's marketing anyway.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by slg »

Shivetya wrote: post #199
tidepod12 wrote: post #109

Bit of a bad look that the video clip showing Smart Summon shows the Tesla driving the wrong direction down a one-way lane... This might be a situation where Tesla Smart Summon works only when Tesla's are still rare. In areas where they are more common, I imagine a traffic jam of confused driverless Teslas trying to move past each other but get stuck in a small lane like the one in the video.

Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

This update is about more than just improvements while parked and it at least partially addresses two of your complaints. Spotify integration has been added so you can manage that from the screen instead of your phone. Voice commands have supposedly been improved, but obviously it remains to be seen exactly how effective that will be.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by fortran77 »

smileysteve wrote: post #135
tidepod12 wrote: post #131

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Traffic rules don't just magically go away just because you enter a parking lot. edit: the parent comment edited his comment to include "no right way", which I'd like to address: it is very common (at least in every America city I've ever been to) for parking lots to have lanes that are very clearly marked for only one-way travel. These lanes, like the one shown in the video, are typically only wide enough for one ca…

Legally, they kind of do.

Maybe not under "criminal" law (a cop won't stop you for it), but certainly under civil law.

And if you ran over someone while ignoring signs even on private property (for example), it wouldn't help your criminal defense either.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by matz1 »

tidepod12 wrote: post #197
matz1 wrote: post #193

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>if someone is going the wrong way down one, there's a good chance they'll cause a traffic jam if they encounter someone who is going the right way True, but what if smart summon is smart enough to determine that it safe to go wrong way ?

I don't see how that would be universally possible. Take the video, for example: at the time of the video, the Tesla seems fine to continue the wrong direction down the lane. Maybe it's somehow "determined that it is safe" (even though I doubt it does that). But if one of those parked cars in front of the Tesla had pulled out and tried to leave, they would then be face-to-face and both would be stuck. Even if I am a…

Of course nothing is perfect. I'm happy if it smart enough most of the time.

But at very least its not hard to imagine situation where its safe to drive on a wrong way in a parking lot. For example an empty parking lot.

Even when another car show up and block it, meh not a big deal, its unlikely that the car will hit the other car.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by muzika »

tidepod12 wrote: post #109

Bit of a bad look that the video clip showing Smart Summon shows the Tesla driving the wrong direction down a one-way lane... This might be a situation where Tesla Smart Summon works only when Tesla's are still rare. In areas where they are more common, I imagine a traffic jam of confused driverless Teslas trying to move past each other but get stuck in a small lane like the one in the video.

The rumor is that there is a patent for speed sign recognition that Tesla refuses to pay money for.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by slg »

vageli wrote: post #222
slg wrote: post #162

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If we are going to be pedantic about this, and you pretty much have to be given the topic, a parking violation is not considered a traffic violation. Obviously a private parking lot isn't some completely lawless place, but many (most?) traffic laws don't apply there.

> If we are going to be pedantic about this, and you pretty much have to be given the topic, a parking violation is not considered a traffic violation. Obviously a private parking lot isn't some completely lawless place, but many (most?) traffic laws don't apply there. So you can drive like 50 mph or do donuts, violate crosswalks with pedestrians in them, etc? Does your jurisdiction have no laws on reckless driving,…

I don't know what to tell you. You are free to Google it and see that it is pretty universal that many traffic laws don't apply in private parking lots (it obviously depends on jurisdiction). That doesn't mean you can't be ticketed for driving recklessly or endangering/injuring people, it just means it is fundamentally legally different than driving on a freeway.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by SECProto »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #243
leesec wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah so I don't care about the blutooth because my car DRIVES ITSELF a big percent of the time. it's fundamentally changed how I view driving. Stop and Go traffic no longer makes me mad. Road trips no longer exhaust me. There's probably some issues but none that I care about. It feels like driving the future. It's an absolute joy to drive. No gas stations is pretty nice too.

I'm driving a Toyota Corolla with lane assist which does 95% of what Tesla "Self Driving" does. It accelerates and brakes for me in traffic, and correct courses to stay in my lane. This is a 18k$ car and I would not accept trading Bluetooth issues with fancy parking summon features.

Having driven a car with Toyota's smart driving features... I view them as a negative. Cruise control keeps me too far back from whatever vehicle is in front of me. Dealbreaker with no clear way to disable. I'll stick with my 7 year old Yaris (which also has shitty Bluetooth)
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