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iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by prolepunk »

jug wrote: post #35

I feel for the compact camera manufacturers. Smartphones killed the 2/3" sensor market. Now they've killed the 1" sensor market too. Micro 4/3 is stale with no major sensor advancements for years now. What's left, APS-C and up?

The big advancement for micro 4/3 in the last two years has been image stabilization using lens and sensor working in tandem.

A more recent sensor advancement is dual native ISO in GH5s, which make the system's long downside -- low light performance, a much better proposition. I'm hoping this technology will find its way to cheaper offerings.

There are a few fast new lenses that have come out. I particularly like 25mm f/1.7 that's under $200, there are also a few ones on the higher end.

Another selling point for micro 4/3 that they can use virtually any vintage lens with a simple adapter.

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Post by shinyeyes »

I wonder when Apple will address the elephant in the room: "how can we keep our lens always clean like our SLR lenses?" iPhone is a good camera but I haven't found any good case to keep it dust-free. It's even worse nowadays with lens bumps.

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Post by bydo »

sib wrote: post #231
wlesieutre wrote: post #203

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To nitpick a bit, the standard iPhone lenses have always been wide angle. The new ones are ultra wide.

True, but only by the standards of traditional photography... The standard iPhone lens (26mm) has always been pretty much normal for phone camera lenses. When Apple introduced the second lens (51mm), they called it "telephoto," even though that focal length is pretty much dead-on the traditional definition for a "standard" lens. No traditional photographer would call a 51mm lens a telephoto lens. So, for people who g…

To continue this, “normal” is a technical term in photography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_lens

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by bduerst »

mfer wrote: post #96
mewse-hn wrote: post #41

How could anyone read this without knowing it's an advertisement: "today I’m just as thrilled to be putting an entirely new Ultra Wide lens in my pocket. It gives us another format to tell the story, another perspective to visualize, and a better rounded tool for doing our best creative work."

Does the author have a bias? Certainly. Is this an advertisement? Ads are paid announcements. There was nothing noting it was paid for in any capacity. There's a difference between an ad and a bias. I find it useful to notice biases because we all have them. Ads are quite different.

Promoted content exists, where publishers accept money from companies to write articles promoting a good or service, to subsidize their revenue. Most of the time they do not disclose this.

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Post by ubercow13 »

rolltiide wrote: post #166
jonlucc wrote: post #4

The photography in these kinds of reviews is amazing, and the camera looks pretty stellar compared to the XS, but I find myself reading them wondering if it will make my pictures any better. I'm a mediocre photographer at best, and I'm certainly not going to be able to capture many images like the ones in this review.

The Lighting at the time is more important than the lens being used The Lens being used is more important than the camera sensor being used The camera sensor is more important than the camera body being used Stick to this fundamental reality in that order and the novelty of “a pHoNE dID ThIs” wears off quick. Now, I can say that the depth cameras and non-destructive software depth processing is getting some amazing e…

These seem like half-truths which don't really apply any more. Especially in smartphones, the body makes more difference than the sensor if you consider that most advancements are in software not sensor tech.

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Post by roywiggins »

jonlucc wrote: post #4

The photography in these kinds of reviews is amazing, and the camera looks pretty stellar compared to the XS, but I find myself reading them wondering if it will make my pictures any better. I'm a mediocre photographer at best, and I'm certainly not going to be able to capture many images like the ones in this review.

I got one of the recent Android phones with a superwide angle lens, and being able to zoom out is a real boon for group photos, indoor photos, and occasional landscape/cityscape shots. It doesn't make my shots better but it means I can take pictures I just couldn't otherwise.

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Post by dvaun »

Diederich wrote: post #239
overcast wrote: post #31

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The key elements to these photos basically come down to dramatic lighting(dawn/dusk), leading lines(look at the bridge and waterway shots, your eyes are guided to the mountains and the horizon), and the rule of thirds(dividing your image up into quadrants, and keeping important subjects at their intersections). Basic stuff, but as always requires LOTS of practice and experimentation.

Over 20 years ago, my wife and I were driving up highway 395, just east of the California High Sierras. At the time, we were only using disposable cameras. She suddenly asked me to pull over, which I did, and backed up a bit, to right around here: https://goo.gl/maps/dh4gyRPi71ZQmy4b7 She got out of our 1996 Saturn SL, walked around a few minutes, snapped a single picture, and got back in the car. A couple of months…

> She got out of our 1996 Saturn SL, walked around a few minutes, snapped a single picture, and got back in the car.

This is fantastic! The Eastern Sierras are an amazing place to explore through camping and day hikes. In my own experience, my parents had planned backpacking trips in this area several times when I was a teen, where each trip was filled with moments like the one your wife and yourself experienced. New places, or points of perspective — where you see the world around you in a new light — are precious and awe-inspiring.

> Alas, it was lost in a fire many years ago.

This is sad to read. Losing personal photos is hard to come to terms with

> Equipment is good and important; location, timing, and an eye for composition is, in my opinion, far more important.

This makes sense, and seems to be a broad truth across disciplines: artists and creators are not bounded by tools.

My wife and I plan to take our children out to these places. Seeing a sky full of stars and seemingly boundless nature, against the background of quiet sounds and the natural world around you, is something that I wish everyone would experience in their lifetime.

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

delfinom wrote: post #185
teilo wrote: post #183

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A lot of prominent bloggers and tech news sites, including John Gruber, The Verge, and many others, got advance devices to review. This is normal, and not unique to Apple. They also get Pixels and Galaxies in advance.

Unfortunately, alot early reviewers have perverse incentive to give good reviews to continue receiving early units and getting that as revenue first.

Sure, and respected camera review websites like DPReview get the majority of their revenue through people clicking through their site to purchase cameras. Is it a conflict of interest? Oh hell yes, and you should keep it in mind. Does it make the review wrong? Well...probably not, but keep it in mind.

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Post by sh-run »

_ph_ wrote: post #236
ricardobeat wrote: post #228

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I moved back to aps-c after I noticed my EM10 was giving me nearly zero benefit over the iPhone in terms of quality or resolution. The 16MP vs 12MP is barely noticeable, and the iPhone was actually sharper and had better tone in side-by-side shoots. That was with a 6S!

It would be interesting to know which lenses you used on the E-M10, but while I made good photos with the 6s, in general they wouldn't compare to what I consistently get with mFT. The size difference between mFT and APS-C is neglible compared to the difference to the smartphone cameras. Where the iPhone shines is getting nicely automatically post-processed pictures. Olympus has an iAuto mode, which also aims for that…

Yeah, I'm curious too. I've got a E-M5.2 and the photos I get on it are consistently better than what I get on my Xr. I mostly shoot in Aperture priority mode, but I switch to full manual in tricky situations. I do very basic editing with Darktable.

Before I bought my E-M5.2 I had an E-PL2, looking at some of the pictures I took with the kit lens they are generally still better than the pictures I've taken on my phone.

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