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Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by chrisan »

lostgame wrote: post #231
CDSlice wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Apple really not listening to it's customers, or just not listening to a small, vocal subset? I've really only heard complaints about the touchbar from software devs, which are not Apple's main customers. Apple's main customers are creatives and people that want to spend a lot of money for what amounts to a well made (MacBook pro keyboard issues notwithstanding), functional status symbols. Making a smaller, cheape…

>> I really don't think you are Apple's target audience. I am a creative professional - which, historically, was a very important part of Apple’s user base; and the reason I still use their products. The ecosystem and workflow of using an iPhone or iPad to write a simple musical idea in GarageBand on the subway, and then finding it already on my iCloud on my MacBook Pro at home, so I can open it up in Logic and refin…

Just for record, I don't know any non-creative/developer who own macs. Anyone else does not like the touchbar. The same subsets care about headphone jacks or not.

I'm 6'1" and think I have decent sized hands, I'd still prefer the 4S size if I could get it

All that said, historically sure, but creative and/or professionals are not the target of a mainstream phone meant to sell millions of phones.

I've given up dreaming and just deal with it as I still prefer iOS to Android

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Post by jobigoud »

ryandrake wrote: post #111
chuckgreenman wrote: post #18

I'm a single-issue voter when it comes to cell phones - if it doesn't have a headphone jack, I won't be buying it.

I sometimes can’t believe that after 3 years people are still feeling hurt about this thing. I mean, go ahead and vote with your wallet but wow, what a hill to choose to die on! I’ve been through the obsolescence of floppy disks, cassette tapes, optical media/drives, DB9 serial ports, parallel printer ports, composite video, RCA audio jacks, VGA and countless other display output jacks, yet this silly 3.5mm headphone…

> invest in a decent pair of BT headphones and never worry about it again

Except, everyday, when you need to charge them? And when you need to enable/disable the BT radio (unless you keep it always on but in that case the autonomy of the phone suffers).

I like my bone conduction BT headphones and use them almost everyday, but a passive "dumb" wired solution is very convenient and removing it is a strict downgrade. At a time when the new models don't really add a lot of value over the older ones this removal actually tips the balance to the wrong side. The improvements don't make up for it.

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Post by bradlys »

NoodleIncident wrote: post #238
bradlys wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a decent amount of people but I think this is increasingly rare as more and more cars have Bluetooth. And it's not hard to update many older cars to newer headunits that have Bluetooth in them. (as I did for some of my cars) or just get a headunit that does power+transmission over USB too.

You can definitely tell the difference between bluetooth and an aux cord. There's no excuse for using a wireless connection between a phone and a car that are already plugged into each other anyway

Personally, I dislike having to plug in multiple cords. 3.5mm also doesn't transmit what you're listening to. I find that pretty useful to know. My phone screen is used for other things besides displaying song info.

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Post by tracker1 »

lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

I wouldn't even bother with Hackintosh (unless you are building iOS/MacOS apps). Been running Pop!_OS at home for a few weeks now, and although there have been a couple hiccups (alsamixer to fix one, kernel update and drivers for wifi the other), it's been the best desktop Linux experience I've had in years. Been mostly terminal/server/docker instances for about 5 years.

And although there are some options for better Windows experiences (WSL, Docker etc), I'm using Linux at home... laptop is an ageing late-2014 rmbp (though nvidia, so updates are borked) and stuck with Windows at work.

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Post by AmericanChopper »

lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

> They’ve killed the non Touch Bar MacBook Pro, while the industry laments the Touch Bar’s existence.

‘The industry’ is not Apple’s customer. Apple knows who they want their customers to be, and it makes the products that it knows they want. I’m mostly expecting them to release a smaller iPhone. But for most of your complaints and the same old complaints that get posted in every Apple thread on HN, Apple doesn’t care about them, because HN commenters don’t represent what the market actually wants from Apple.

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

nix0n wrote: post #49
foobarbecue wrote: post #27

Writing this on my Sony Xperia XZ1. It's small, fast, waterproof, high res, and has headphone jack. My only complaint is lack of openness.

Unfortunately, the XZ1 and XZ1c (which I have) seem to be discontinued.

Sony's newer models have gotten rid of the headphone jack. I know this because I replaced mine earlier this year after dropping my old one on a bus floor.

I don't really mind so much most of the time, though, since my headphones were wireless anyway. I only really use the dongle if the headphones are low on battery.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by lostgame »

tracker1 wrote: post #245
lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

I wouldn't even bother with Hackintosh (unless you are building iOS/MacOS apps). Been running Pop!_OS at home for a few weeks now, and although there have been a couple hiccups (alsamixer to fix one, kernel update and drivers for wifi the other), it's been the best desktop Linux experience I've had in years. Been mostly terminal/server/docker instances for about 5 years. And although there are some options for better…

>> (unless you are building iOS/MacOS apps)

raises hand

Yup. I’m also locked in to Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro, with some projects literally a decade old.

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Post by sg47 »

TheCapn wrote: post #191
JohnFen wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to make a recommendation without knowing your needs. However, if the Pixel 1 makes you happy, then I'm likely to recommend that you just get another Pixel.

It was more of a question to see your rational honestly. If you're saying the only quality feature of the Pixel 3a is the camera I wanted to see what you valued in smartphones to make that comment. For me: ease of use/configuration. I don't want Samsung bloat, I'd prefer to buy direct from manufacturer to avoid mobile carrier shit. I don't want to deal with rooting and have been happy with Google's smartphone offer s…

Pixel 3a does not support wireless charging. I've never had a phone that supported it so I don't know what I'm missing. After using Samsung phones in the past, I've sworn that I'll never buy a phone with that much bloat. Coming from Pixel 1, I have not had any loss in functionality. Only thing I can think of is that the battery seems to drain slightly faster than Pixel 1 but I don't have the data to prove it.
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