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I agree with others here, YT and it's like are de facto monopolies by their size and market share. PeerTube [1] is a Mastodon [2] offshoot project that might allow users to get off YT, no idea where it's at though. "One project, Peertube, does exactly this. A federated, decentralized video sharing platform using the same back end as Mastodon, but around the sharing of video clips."[3] [1] https://joinpeertube.org/ [2…

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Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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EDIT: Removing my uncivil post. I'm happy to see your well-articulated post at the top.

Or maybe instead of this being a conspiracy of brigades, more people are waking up the dangers of too much control in the hands of a few powerful people?

Thank you for this cold slap in the face. I needed it.

I am of course very happy to see more people waking up to the dangers of too much control in the hands of powerful people. I'll edit my other post to remove the accusation, it poisons the well. I've been whinging on about this for years and it's definitely worn on my ability to be civil about it when we're at the "I told you so" stage of censorship.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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If they are talking about the project veritas video from supposed googlers... yeah, project veritas has been thouroughly discredited for a long time now.

No more so than CNN.

Every video project veritas has produced has been thoroughly debunked. There's plenty to be critical of regarding CNN, but they do still put out news.

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Not anymore a conspiracy theory. This is the actual big brother modeling our futures, a group of people powerful enough, with their own interests and their own agenda with access to most peoples minds/lives, and who already publicly explained how they plan to influence on global geopolitics and society building. I find it disturbing this level of censorship. At first, it was pedophiles, murders and violent criminal a…

I don't think anyone is stopping you from putting your hacking video on your own website and letting users download it. That would be censorship. This is merely an aggregator/community that doesn't want to pay to distribute your content. So pay someone else!

The regulation is getting more and more expensive to be compliant with and soon only the wealthy will be able to afford hosting their own uncensored videos. Governments then will take care of that too.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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I could definitely get behind your point if the subject were the government. It's not, though I understand the sentiment is the same. At the end of the day YouTube is a private company. Yea, a very big one with huge reach, but private nonetheless. Taking a subjective moral position is something companies have been doing for a long time. If you disagree with them, don't give them your $ (don't use youtube).

The US is weird in that a lot of commonly expected services aren't supplied by the government, if there was a wewillhostyourvideos.gov site out there then I'd definitely agree with you - I still _mostly_ agree with you since youtube now has semi-legitimate competition from vimeo - vimeo fails hard as a browsing platform but is fine as a place to host your video. This sort of censorship by a private company is only ac…

Is there any government in the world providing a wewillhostyourvideos.gov? More to the point, video is not the only form of speech, web pages exist, podcasts exist, I am not sure why freedom of speech now equals video and why people insist that the ability to post video to a privately owned platform is now a right just because that platform happens to be popular.

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So the recorded Google employees were deepfakes? Or are you saying that autocomplete results for "men can " in Google search are totally natural and not at all political engineering done by Google?

I don't trust project veritas or its motives, at all. There will be possibly be a time in the future when we can reasonably prove our identities and all things we have done with those identities. In this future, Reputation will be at least as valuable as any other form of measure of worth, because it will also be a world filled with bullshit. In that world, we will want to be very selective with our attention, and wh…

Thanks for chiming in here. I just read through the original PV post[1] and also skimmed through some of the documents in PV's "Doc Dump"[2] related to the article. The documents they dumped don't have a political bias to them - they're literally about trying to get factual/fair news displayed to people as best as possible.

Beyond that, I'm not even going to bother with videos. Like you said, O'Keefe has a very selective/gotcha method of editing his videos, and his claims and methods have long been both suspect and invalidated. Were I to have found anything worthwhile in the documents they dumped or the quotes in the article on their site, I might have given the video a view, but there's nothing "suspect" against Google in the dumped documents to begin with.

This, like most other PV work, is bogus.

[1]https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/24/insider-blows-whis...

[2]https://www.projectveritas.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/SS...

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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I could definitely get behind your point if the subject were the government. It's not, though I understand the sentiment is the same. At the end of the day YouTube is a private company. Yea, a very big one with huge reach, but private nonetheless. Taking a subjective moral position is something companies have been doing for a long time. If you disagree with them, don't give them your $ (don't use youtube).

When they have more influence and impact on citizens than governments, perhaps we should revisit our definition of what "public" means. They can close businesses, make disappear the reach of specific competitors and do all sorts of things that governments cannot do because they agreed with their respective societies to limit their own power after thousands of years of history. Right now the only part in which are the…

It is utterly absurd to suggest that YouTube has more influence and impact than the government. The government has the power to imprison and murder you with impunity, their level of impact and influence completely dwarfs every video sharing site on the internet combined.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Devil's advocate: There's a very thin line between e.g. the Lockpicking Lawyer doing reviews of different padlock brands and e.g. an instructional video about how to break into someone's house. YouTube knows that if someone posts home invasion instructions, and then someone else watches those instructions and commits a crime, the news media will absolutely 100% blame YouTube, and politicians will jump on them to scor…

Since when is censorship for the sake of preventing people from acquiring knowledge that may be used in a later crime even on the table? This is insanity.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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I wonder why YouTube has to be the go-to source for useful video in the first place. Seems steps like this drive important content to other, hopefully more privacy-conscious platforms. This is a bigger loss for YouTube than the security community.

> I wonder why YouTube has to be the go-to source for useful video in the first place For the same reason Google became #1 in search: it's easier to look for something in one place than half a dozen miscellaneous places.

Video metasearch (as with DDG) is one way to obviate this.
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