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Iceland tire of tourists trashing their nature

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Chinese tourists are considered some of the most rude and dirty, and China is a collectivist society. I think it’s just a problem with tourism.

“are considered”? This is a ridiculous stereotype. I’ve seen Chinese travelers around the world and they’re as sophisticated as anyone

Yes I agree, I have been traveling a lot recently and Chinese tourists usually seem respectful and amongst the best behaved. This stereotype is ridiculous.

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The first time I experienced this in nature was last year in Yosemite. So many people were climbing over barriers and walking in places where they shouldn't, it was horrible. I've experienced this a lot in Amsterdam too, however. Tourists are treating Amsterdam like it isn't a real city. Especially the British seem to have no respect and treat Amsterdam like it's Vegas, but with less American cops.

Yellowstone is truly the worst for this. It's an extremely fragile natural wonder populated by some of the most disrespectful tourists the world can offer. I actually cannot conceive of how the park rangers there manage to keep their cool day after day.

The Boundary Waters Canoe Area has some of the same issues. Campsites inside an 'easy to get to' area are just stripped. Trees cut down, bark stripped off of trees, the fire pit seating hacked at, and food stuffs from washing on the shore.

The forest service ends up digging the toilets out of some really rough pickaxe type terrain, since most of it is a thin layer of soil over the glacier carved granite. God help the poor soul who dumps trash in the outhouse and gets caught.

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When an instagrammer dies, where go all the likes and the pictures? At least, with paper-printed photos, you have|had material stuff to inherit with some context and history.

You are aware that posting a picture on Instagram doesn't preclude you also archiving it, yes?

Ah the irony. :p

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Not in Japan. No armies of cleaning people are required.

Kids clean their own schools in Japan. https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/featurephilia/stor... Whereas in the West, we just tell ourselves stories like all cultures are equal, and even though it's obviously not even remotely true, most people seem to believe it.

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I don’t know which country you live in, but in the United States of America, all this talk of “fairness of law” is a fairytale at best. And no, you can’t convince me otherwise.

Nationalistic flamebait will get you banned here. Please don't post like this to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sure. Agreed. HN needs better discourse.

Is there a “Delete Account” feature here? How do I go about deleting my account, including ALL my comments/submissions over the last 10 years.

I want to leave absolutely ZERO footprint on HN. As if I was never ever here. How do I make it happen?

Thank you.

Re: Iceland tire of tourists trashing their nature

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I call this the 'Disney World' effect of nature tourism. Self-involved, entitled people who treat national parks and the wilderness like an amusement park that has been set aside for their entertainment. They expect the natural world to cater to their whims the same way a Disney world employee does, and they just do not understand that's not how the world works.

I’ve seen many National Parks in Australia that gave me the Disneyland feeling, but on the other side they made a lot of work to keep the NP accessible.

In Spain some call it Decatlón tourism, from the low-cost chain selling outdoor accessories.

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8 of the 10 most polluted rivers in the world are in East Asia. Of the top polluted cities in the world 8 of 10 are in Asia. Your analysis falls apart with even a cursory search.

8 of the 10 most polluted rivers in the world are in East Asia. Of the top polluted cities in the world 8 of 10 are in Asia. Your analysis falls apart with even a cursory search. Those rivers and cities are all in the manufacturing regions that supply goods to customers in the west. The root cause of the pollution is our consumerism coupled to the governments of Eastern countries enabling exceptionally cheap labor th…

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There is a difference between individual pollution and state level pollution though. Germany may pollute the air/rivers less than China but come to Berlin; in some neighbourhoods you might think you teleported to a third world country where trash are simply threw in the streets to rot for weeks if not months before the public services finally do something.

Because, apparently, it's a huge part of rich Berliner culture to "not give a shit about anything". It's a very individualistic city.

Individualistic is a very kind, even positive term for that in my opinion. I would think if we called it a shithole city instead, they would be less inclined to act that way due to the shame.

No offense to good Berliners of course.

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https://xkcd.com/1314/

Except in this case there is a very good reason to care how other people enjoy their experiences.

LOL, if you consider me a twat for caring how other people enjoy their experiences when it is responsible for polluting nature, then so be it - fuck you very much.

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Yellowstone is truly the worst for this. It's an extremely fragile natural wonder populated by some of the most disrespectful tourists the world can offer. I actually cannot conceive of how the park rangers there manage to keep their cool day after day.

The Boundary Waters Canoe Area has some of the same issues. Campsites inside an 'easy to get to' area are just stripped. Trees cut down, bark stripped off of trees, the fire pit seating hacked at, and food stuffs from washing on the shore. The forest service ends up digging the toilets out of some really rough pickaxe type terrain, since most of it is a thin layer of soil over the glacier carved granite. God help the…

IMO that situation is not exactly ideal, but it is campsites working as intended. They concentrated the human impact into a small, actively managed area.
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