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Google’s Chrome Becomes Web ‘Gatekeeper’ and Rivals Complain

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Re: Google’s Chrome Becomes Web ‘Gatekeeper’ and Rivals Complain

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A company promoting their own products on their own websites is far from being criminal. Amazon.com right now just showed a giant splash for buying an Echoshow on their home page.

Imagine your bank, alphabank has 80% of personal bank accounts and 70% of auto insurance. When you check your transactions, you see a notice: " you could save up to x% by switching to alphacar ." That's the premise behind antitrust (even though in practice, its 50 years behind the times). If you have dominant market share, things that are otherwise lawful^ aren't anymore. ^Antitrust stuff like anti-competitive behavi…

That is _not_ antitrust.

It would be anti-competitive in your hypothetical if your bank refused to make transactions to your auto insurance company because it was not the bank's insurance company.

Pop-ups in your bank portal are uncomfortable but are not anti-competitive.

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post #199

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Probably because it's trivial to cut facebook out of your Internet experience. Google,... not so much.

For a long time, I would have agreed... Until my family began to confuse fb messenger with text messaging itself.

It's still easy to cut out of your life. I told my family if they want to reach me they have to use e-mail or the phone. This works surprisingly well.

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Your argument would be easier to receive if you enlightened your reader with what you think a monopoly is, rather than just framing it as something it is not.

I just explained it - monopoly is not a complex economic principle. When consumers have easy access to multiple competing products or services in a market supply, there is not a monopoly by the definition of the word monopoly. This is semantics, not an argument: https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Amonopoly It's not well received because, as GP said, people have the opinion that Chrome is a monopoly because they…

You did the same thing again (defining something by what it is not). This does not help another person understand you, which I'm assuming you want since you seem to care a lot about this subject.

Re: Google’s Chrome Becomes Web ‘Gatekeeper’ and Rivals Complain

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A company promoting their own products on their own websites is far from being criminal. Amazon.com right now just showed a giant splash for buying an Echoshow on their home page.

The difference is that Google has a near-monopoly in search. Amazon is a behemoth, but there are plenty of alternatives.

There are plenty of alternatives to Google as well.

Popularity != Monopoly

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I just explained it - monopoly is not a complex economic principle. When consumers have easy access to multiple competing products or services in a market supply, there is not a monopoly by the definition of the word monopoly. This is semantics, not an argument: https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Amonopoly It's not well received because, as GP said, people have the opinion that Chrome is a monopoly because they…

You did the same thing again (defining something by what it is not). This does not help another person understand you, which I'm assuming you want since you seem to care a lot about this subject.

Perhaps you could explain what you don't understand about it rather than talk about me?

Re: Google’s Chrome Becomes Web ‘Gatekeeper’ and Rivals Complain

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You did the same thing again (defining something by what it is not). This does not help another person understand you, which I'm assuming you want since you seem to care a lot about this subject.

Perhaps you could explain what you don't understand about it rather than talk about me?

I've told you twice what would help me understand, so at this point I'm going to have to respectfully decline to discuss it further. I hope you have a nice day.

Re: Google’s Chrome Becomes Web ‘Gatekeeper’ and Rivals Complain

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Google is a clear monopoly, there's no doubt about it. It has a 70% browser market share, 70% market share in the search ecosystem. Even though their service is good and people are happy, I think they need to be broken down for the sake of keeping an open internet. Even Facebook for that matter. That's my opinion

Those 70% numbers undersell it. It's basically impossible to use the internet today without touching Google servers. Even if you, personally, completely eschew all Google services, almost everyone you want to communicate with will be on a Google service. Sending an email? Watching a video? Reading a blog? Chances are good that Google's involved.

Upvoted for ending with a rhyming couplet.

> Watching a video? Reading a blog?

> Chances are good that Google's involved.

Re: Google’s Chrome Becomes Web ‘Gatekeeper’ and Rivals Complain

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post #242

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For a long time, I would have agreed... Until my family began to confuse fb messenger with text messaging itself.

It's still easy to cut out of your life. I told my family if they want to reach me they have to use e-mail or the phone. This works surprisingly well.

I've explained how the messenger app isn't the text messaging app (called messages), but the similarity still causes it to happen occasionally.

Re: Google’s Chrome Becomes Web ‘Gatekeeper’ and Rivals Complain

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Perhaps you could explain what you don't understand about it rather than talk about me?

I've told you twice what would help me understand, so at this point I'm going to have to respectfully decline to discuss it further. I hope you have a nice day.

No you didn't, but I have a feeling you're not being genuine about wanting to understand either.
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