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Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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I can't see any Chinese phone company feeling comfortable with this move. If someone sets up a viable non-US alternative to Android and the Play Store, they could jump ship en masse.

Much more likely is a SaaS to manage distribution to various app stores from one interface.

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I think this creates a nationalistic retaliation -- "We don't need America. We can do it ourselves, and better."

Not only from China.

Before Trump I would have disagreed with you (at least concerning the USA).

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To all those stating that Huawei should just make their own OS, it's nowhere near that simple. Forking Android is the easy part, building an app ecosystem that thousands of developers across the globe actively partake in is incredibly difficult. Microsoft couldn't even pull it off with Windows Phone. I predict their own Android fork and China-focused app store will do fine in China, but struggle big time in other mar…

the could make the phone an actual computer. that can download and run apps from where-ever. many of us are starving for that.

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This was expected. Huawei now presents a serious competition to the likes of Apple, so the 'free market' in the U.S. responds by...shutting down the competition. Now I know the counterargument is about Chinese protectionism, but it is the U.S. who has always championed free market capitalism and led interventions in order to forcibly open other markets to its exports. As this shows however, this belief in the free ma…

It seems like the exact opposite is true. China in some sense doesn't abide by free market or free trade principles, and this can be seen as a principled stand against that.

But the EU does. Yet Trump's steel tariffs hit EU countries too.

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post #235

I think this creates a nationalistic retaliation -- "We don't need America. We can do it ourselves, and better."

Not only from China.

It depends on what Trump does. He may start opening up other avenues for America to get the same trade we had with China. For example, we might get friendlier with Mexico or Vietnam. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48273550

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I'd love to see a forensic level reverse engineering/technical audit of the Nexus 6P hardware. In reality Chinese intelligence likely wasn't stupid enough to try anything there, but I often wonder how many eyes Google had on hardware security for that project considering it was Huawei making their flagship phone at the time. I also wonder if there were any NSA efforts to tear the thing apart, since they are likely be…

Why is China so likely to bug the phone but the NSA isn't?

>Why is China so likely to bug the phone but the NSA isn't?

Nowhere did I touch on the probability of the NSA bugging anything. Nor did I state it was likely that the Chinese would have placed a backdoor in the Nexus 6P. On the contrary, I think you misread my comment.

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To all those stating that Huawei should just make their own OS, it's nowhere near that simple. Forking Android is the easy part, building an app ecosystem that thousands of developers across the globe actively partake in is incredibly difficult. Microsoft couldn't even pull it off with Windows Phone. I predict their own Android fork and China-focused app store will do fine in China, but struggle big time in other mar…

Domestically within China, Huawei and other phones already use non-google-app-stores. https://technode.com/2018/08/13/android-china-q2-2018/

Well, not only in China, but pretty much every other country where demand for Gaps is not an issue, and it was from day one for them as an Android vendor.

It was the one and only Chinese brand with whom Google made a Nexus phone in the past — at least in part to lessen their enthusiasm in throwing out Google market in Western countries

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Was Huawei explicitly named in the executive order? To my understanding, no, so I don't get why the story focuses on Huawei. For example, Motorola, owned by chinese company Lenovo, One Plus, Xiaomi or Oppo should not use Android either.

Trump also named many other countries as threats to national security, such as Canada, Germany, Mexico, and many others. There's no reason one day South Korea enters the list and Samsung will also get blocked by executive order .

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

iMessage is end-to-end encrypted.

iMessage is encrypted in transit and at rest. However, that doesn't matter if your attacker (the Chinese government) has the encryption keys

The article refers to icloud encryption keys, not imessage keys.

If imessages are backed up to icloud, then the govt will have keys to see them. But if a user doesn't back up, I was under the impression not even apple could decrypt iMessages.

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