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What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by pseudalopex »

bumby wrote: post #191
taneq wrote: post #183

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If you're hungry, or cold, or have no safe place to sleep, money will fix that. If you're just managing to make ends meet and in constant fear of losing your job, money will fix that. If you're overworked and stressed from your high pressure job, money will fix that. In fact, until you're rich enough to be way off the pointy end of Maslowe's hierarchy, money will fix pretty much anything that ails you.

From what I've seen, there's a clear line of demarcation below what you're implying. If I remember correctly, the research says it's around $60k-$75k in the U.S. where the happiness levels out in response to money. I'd have to look it up again to make sure I'm not misremembering

This is commonly misreported. A 2010 study found that answers to questions like "Did you experience a lot of stress yesterday?" leveled out between $60,000 and $90,000. How satisfied people said they were with their lives continued to increase.[1]

[1] https://www.pnas.org/content/107/38/16489

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by enedil »

ip26 wrote: post #175
mettamage wrote: post #169

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She definitely seems European. And I can see that some of it is a becoming an adult story but a part of it isn't. A part of it really is about the corporate culture in Microsoft. I've worked at startups and universities and I never had to deal with: > The people I had on my team, were extremely closed minded. Most of them with many years of experience working in a corporation, so even more closed minded, only caring…

She definitely seems European Seems? She worked out of the Warsaw office. Not many Americans there, I expect.

Does that imply there are no people but Americans and Europeans? Why don't you simply check where is she from? It's quite easy to check that she has polish name, speaks fluent polish, so I guess she is in fact polish. But why did you feel it's important to mention America here?

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by [deleted] »

majos wrote: post #94
parabiii wrote: post #67

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It is a very human want. I am also not sure what is wrong with it, when it is off-site, it is not your boss, and you are getting socially drunk together and without pressure. And if it is wrong, then so is wearing make-up at work. Give and take. Extending professional work ethics and norms to off-work social gatherings is toxic. Using social gatherings to "work" is sly. If you do not shoot, you'll always miss.

> And if it is wrong, then so is wearing make-up at work. Women I know wear makeup at work because many people view makeup as a "professional" or "put together" look, the same way a man might neatly comb their hair, not because they want to look sexy.

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Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by SamReidHughes »

ahelwer wrote: post #222
cc81 wrote: post #170

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I know there are a lot of shitty people out there but one should also note that the workplace is one of the places where people tend to meet their partner. There is a lot of flirting going on in general and some of that by nature will be unwanted. As an example early in my career I used to work with a woman that was also pretty new and we had some chemistry. Nothing really came out of it but we did spend some time to…

The worst case scenario for you is you don't get a date. The worst case scenario for them is their work environment is now unsafe because they had to reject you. I encourage you to listen to women's thoughts on this issue, which are almost universally negative toward workplace romance.

Should I ask this of the women I know dating and marrying their coworkers, or the other ones?

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by HNLurker2 »

Be thankful with what you got. Looking back and ruminating on my failures and my bad actions that make me overlook opportunities (like joining coding competitions because somehow my mother managed to get me a free teacher) and being an unthankful stupid kid with many perks and ways to succeed but failed

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by karianna »

phs318u wrote: post #182
enedil wrote: post #180

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Care to explain?

A joke in poor taste. Melbournians are notorious coffee snobs. As jpatokal said, locals wouldn’t be caught dead in a Starbucks. Basically if the cup is taller than 4 fingers 8-10cm or the ingredients include anything other than coffee, water and milk, or it was made by percolating - then it’s not coffee as far as we’re concerned. It’s either dishwater or a confection of some sort. It may be a fact that Melbourne has…

Wellington, NZ would like to have a word

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by bumby »

pseudalopex wrote: post #241
bumby wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I've seen, there's a clear line of demarcation below what you're implying. If I remember correctly, the research says it's around $60k-$75k in the U.S. where the happiness levels out in response to money. I'd have to look it up again to make sure I'm not misremembering

This is commonly misreported. A 2010 study found that answers to questions like "Did you experience a lot of stress yesterday?" leveled out between $60,000 and $90,000. How satisfied people said they were with their lives continued to increase.[1] [1] https://www.pnas.org/content/107/38/16489

Kahneman actually speaks to this pretty well in his TED talk about the two types of happiness, but the parent comment seemed to be speaking to the first type (the 'reducing stress' happiness, not the 'reflecting' happiness). You're right; I was trying deliberately not to get lost in the weeds on the details but it probably just looks lazy instead.

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by nitely »

CydeWeys wrote: post #124
airnomad wrote: post #55

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I'm not sure what is so wrong with politely telling someone that you want to have sex with her or him. I mean I want many things but that doesn't mean I'll get them.

It's not appropriate at work, full stop. HR will have to discipline if not fire you in order to limit their legal liability for this. They will certainly have to fire you if you continue doing it after being asked to stop. They could be on the hooks for a lot of money in a nearly-guaranteed workplace harassment lawsuit if they allow you to persist. And anyway, if your intent is actually to get laid, then randomly ask…

They were drunk, so probably not at work. Not saying it's right or wrong. But probably less wrong.

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by cc81 »

ahelwer wrote: post #222
cc81 wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know there are a lot of shitty people out there but one should also note that the workplace is one of the places where people tend to meet their partner. There is a lot of flirting going on in general and some of that by nature will be unwanted. As an example early in my career I used to work with a woman that was also pretty new and we had some chemistry. Nothing really came out of it but we did spend some time to…

The worst case scenario for you is you don't get a date. The worst case scenario for them is their work environment is now unsafe because they had to reject you. I encourage you to listen to women's thoughts on this issue, which are almost universally negative toward workplace romance.

Why would it be unsafe for them just because they rejected me? And of course people are not universally against it. Most people seems to be meeting their partner through friends but the second largest group has met their partner at work.

https://www.bustle.com/p/where-people-are-actually-meeting-t...

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by kerbalspacepro »

enedil wrote: post #242
ip26 wrote: post #175

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She definitely seems European Seems? She worked out of the Warsaw office. Not many Americans there, I expect.

Does that imply there are no people but Americans and Europeans? Why don't you simply check where is she from? It's quite easy to check that she has polish name, speaks fluent polish, so I guess she is in fact polish. But why did you feel it's important to mention America here?

Are you made that they didn't leave open the possibility that she was Australian, a Kiwi or an Afrikaner?
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