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Sorry what do you mean haggle? This is just one of the 3 plans offered by my employer where the deductible is much bigger and the premium is lower. I did need to open a savings account but I figured that would make things easier to pay, idk haven't used it. Otherwise my behavior as a consumer has been identical. maybe I'm missing something
If your employer has a low deductible plan with a higher premium your insurance coverage issues will be a lot lower (as you could eat the copay cost instead of negotiating).
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> If I could choose to just pay more in taxes One of the fallacies in play is buying insurance is put in one category. Whereas paying taxes for insurance is another. The first is 'good' because it's 'free market' and the second is 'bad' because it's the government taking your money's.
What I don't get is why do you think paying 2k to a private insurance is any worse than 2k to the state.
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Unless someone has a medical degree they're not an informed patient - they're someone who has been fed information through pharma PR campaigns to believe they're informed about a topic while only knowing information that would contribute to a private corporation's profit. It is amazingly difficult to find good balanced information on prescriptions in the US - even doctors have issues.
Please do not protect me from myself. Especially in the case of if/when my life is on the line, I want to know about my options. I'd much rather have information overload, than be blind. And between my doctor and I, we will discern what is a real option, what is BS, and what tradeoffs I am willing to make in an effort to extend my life. Stop being The Great Protector.
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What I don't get is why do you think paying 2k to a private insurance is any worse than 2k to the state.
Because the private insurance company is incentivized to optimize for profits and the state is incentivized to optimize for a healthy population.
The state is incentivized to be a political boon for politicians, not to give "healthy outcomes".
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Please do not protect me from myself. Especially in the case of if/when my life is on the line, I want to know about my options. I'd much rather have information overload, than be blind. And between my doctor and I, we will discern what is a real option, what is BS, and what tradeoffs I am willing to make in an effort to extend my life. Stop being The Great Protector.
Using that argument millions of Americans have refused to let their children be vaccinated because they know more about medicine - even themselves. If your medical decision will endanger others it is a matter for The Great Protector, and, it's my opinion, that the great American habit of second guessing experts is what has let groups that oppose vaccinations, a round earth and the dangers of CO2 infiltrate modern soc…
I want to know as much as possible about treatments, their side effects, and tradeoffs. And if I partially learn about those items from a commercial, who cares? I want more time with my friends and family. I don't care about the source of a potential solution.
And the doctor can still elect to not provide the medication. The treatment decision is expertly gated, regardless of my wishes or insistence that "I know better".