Why aren't discord and slack eating up this space? They seem to be much more feature filled than Telegram.
Because the users just want a messenger. All those "extra features" get in the way when you're trying to send a friend a message.
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That's not a very good use of "literally", because searching through encrypted messages will certainly be slower, and on mobile devices, this will have a bigger impact on responsiveness and battery life. That is a big downside on mobile (not desktop). Create similar chats that are long (like tens of thousands of messages) on different apps and compare Telegram's search speed with others'.
Oh, it's okay, you can use it as a generic intensifier now, even though it's confusing and there are much better ones.
So, you can use it, but you shouldn't.
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#243I understand Telegram's appeal because of its high quality apps and big feature list, but articles such as this one really should be more nuanced when pushing Telegram's marketing message of "We have true privacy and unlimited space for everyone.". Their default mode is not end-to-end encrypted [1] and as such the product is less private than WhatsApp. Even tech-savvy users in my social circles are not aware of this…
Signal all the way down. It's the only viable solution we have now on a compromise level between security, usability and user base.
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#244I have no clue why anyone would choose Telegram over Signal or Keybase. Marketing.
Re: Telegram gets 3M new signups during Facebook apps’ outage
#245I understand Telegram's appeal because of its high quality apps and big feature list, but articles such as this one really should be more nuanced when pushing Telegram's marketing message of "We have true privacy and unlimited space for everyone.". Their default mode is not end-to-end encrypted [1] and as such the product is less private than WhatsApp. Even tech-savvy users in my social circles are not aware of this…
Signal all the way down. It's the only viable solution we have now on a compromise level between security, usability and user base.
or Wire if you don't want to use your phone number
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I mostly use it on desktop and the clients feels like 10 years ago. - Doesn't go in to system tray (unless you fiddle with command line arguments). - can't search messages - overall unpolished (e.g. saving a file has no "show in folder" option afterwards)
> - Doesn't go in to system tray (unless you fiddle with command line arguments). This was really jarring for me the first time I used Signal Desktop on Windows. I clicked on the close button and then realized that the app had terminated instead of minimizing to the tray (as such apps would be expected by many users to behave). Thanks, I didn't know about command line arguments for that. I'll check it out.
Put a link to the exe somewhere (e.g. the start-up folder in the start menu).
Than edit the target to add the argument:
C:\Users\[your_username]\AppData\Local\Programs\signal-desktop\Signal.exe --start-in-tray
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Keybase is very convenient, same features and is based on known standards and has arguably as good a UX as telegram. Why isn't that used more?
I hate the hassle of setting up Keybase on Mobile andDesktop so i have never bothered about it till now.
Hassle? It’s incredibly straightforward. Maybe 2 steps to login to an account on iOS that already exists on desktop (preferences add devise, scan QR code).
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I just bought the Conversations app a couple days ago. It looks like, from the Quicksy.im site, that Quicksy is meant to eventually funnel users into Conversations. I'm a little confused by this path. What would make Quicksy users go to Conversations?
Well, I think this is more like a newcomer vs. power user scenario. If you are new to XMPP, Quicksy gives you a decent messenger without requiring you to know how everything works. After a while though, you might learn that you can host your own server or use your own domain and want to do that. At that point, however, you would have to switch to Conversations as Quicksy allows only Accounts on Quicksy servers (AFAIK…
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.
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Signal/RedPhone did invent its own crypto (the ratchet), didn't they?
> Signal/RedPhone did invent its own crypto (the ratchet), didn't they? IIRC, they didn't invent any crypto primitives (e.g. cyphers).
Sure, but the primitives are pretty boring, anyway. Few people try to invent those.
Many more try to invent new constructions on top of the primitives. That's where things go wrong, in practice.
(I fully trust in OWS here, but "don't invent crypto" is an unsuitable argument in a Signal-vs-Telegram discussion)
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#250Telegram is great because, for me, for two reasons: 1. Extremely well written mobile and desktop apps. Great performance and low resource usage. 2. Group functionality. It's not fully secure, but there are a bunch of thriving communities on there that are great. Local groups, coding groups, IT groups, etc. Also- if you're part of the furry community it is the de-facto communication platform.
> furry community it is the de-facto communication platform.
Interesting fact, haha.