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More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Remember the fire phone?

The fire phone begat the teams that build Alexa and Go so I’d say we are doing pretty well. Disclaimer - work in Alexa

Sure, but there's no denying that the phone was an utter, abysmal failure. Alexa could be exactly what it is today without a lot of that development.

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Yeah me too. They’ve made it a lot easier on me by killing off the two products that I still enjoyed, inbox and hangouts. Thanks Google! You made the transition easier then expected. Even if I did have a shred of trust for google, why would I invest myself into a new product of theirs? They’ll just kill it off

They broke my YouTube account a number of years ago in an attempt to force Google+ across their systems and artificially inflate user numbers. Yesterday I got an email from them saying that they are nuking my Google+. I will always remember that series of events as one of the most hostile acts of aggression against users that I have ever experienced. That changed my perspective of Google as a company and I'm not sure…

I don't know why this is downvoted. Seems legitimate to me.

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Those are expensive. And their presence compromises your family's privacy.

Exactly. We were already hemorrhaging money, and skilled nursing care for even a few hours a week is incredibly expensive. Not to mention you now have a stranger in your home, and without going in to details, we caught some very unsavory behavior via IP Camera with one of the caregivers we'd hired early on. It's just an incredibly stressful time in a family's life, no matter how you cut it.

Robot butler != skilled nursing care, though.

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I'm not a Googler but read that Pichai oversaw the growth of Chrome browser from minor player to the dominant position it has today. And he also oversaw Android's growth after Andy Rubin's departure [1]. While he may not have written code that's two world-leading consumer adoption stories. So many great engineers build products that never achieve great adoption. So aren't Pichai's accomplishments worthy of CEO-level…

> oversaw the growth of Chrome browser from minor player to the dominant position it has today. And he also oversaw Android's growth Couple of personal observations- Would it have been same if Chrome was not advertised on every google property and google intentionally breaking google properties on competitor browsers? Also there was really no competition for android. But not sure if the these two products were not wo…

Did you just forget Windows Phone ever existed? Also Palm and a few others.

And Chrome originally swept the world because it was just so much better (most faster) than everything else. That’s why the tech industry migrated initially, and then the growth tactics probably just kept things moving to grab the number one spot.

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They broke my YouTube account a number of years ago in an attempt to force Google+ across their systems and artificially inflate user numbers. Yesterday I got an email from them saying that they are nuking my Google+. I will always remember that series of events as one of the most hostile acts of aggression against users that I have ever experienced. That changed my perspective of Google as a company and I'm not sure…

I don't know why this is downvoted. Seems legitimate to me.

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Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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They broke my YouTube account a number of years ago in an attempt to force Google+ across their systems and artificially inflate user numbers. Yesterday I got an email from them saying that they are nuking my Google+. I will always remember that series of events as one of the most hostile acts of aggression against users that I have ever experienced. That changed my perspective of Google as a company and I'm not sure…

I don't know why this is downvoted. Seems legitimate to me.

I must have struck a nerve.

I use the Brave browser now. I think other people should too. Downvotes welcome.

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Facebook is near the bottom with Google IMO. Netflix has totally flipped Hollywood and airing really interesting original content. That is something.

Facebook somehow has turned social into a giant. Forced real names and gave your grandmother a reason to be on the internet. Facebook will be the global free television network will push vr and start introducing telepatic phone services. Netflix will probably split into two with one company showing new movies with different pricing models. The second service will have all of the original content they made throughout…

I think the OP's point was less what the companies have done in their lifetime than what they're doing now. Both Google and Facebook revolutionised the internet, but I'm really struggling to think of much that they've done recently. Google at least has the Android platform, and I suppose Google Home? Facebook just seems to have a trail of failed hardware projects and has bought success through billion dollar acquisitions

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Arguably, Google's best CEO was Eric Schmidt. He's the one that turned Google from a startup into an awesome tech company. But nobody ever accused him of having no vision. That's because vision was not his role. That role was for both founders who acted in a duo CTO role. Looking at Google today, they have a CEO but no CTO and the founders seem to be not involved in day to day strategy of Google. So, the real problem…

I do think that Google has a technical vision. They want more people writing amazing content, and not SEO garbage. They want to offer people focused answers to their questions. They want to serve as your personal assistant. They want people to really trust the first answer they get from Google. And they want to be deeply integrated with your life. The thing is: building AWS is more of an engineering project. Achievin…

First of all, they want to make money. By selling ads, primarily.

They cloned iOS not because they think they can make it better but because they saw how big mobile would get, and didn't like that apple was in control.

They want to cut costs by trying to automate everything with "deep learning and AI."

> They want people to really trust the first answer they get from Google.

Yeah they already messed up this one by going for their ai crap here. I still remember the article about the journalist who google claimed was dead when you googled her name. Not just that but it was nearly impossible for her to contact anyone at google to correct that. Which is not surprising if you consider the arrogance of google. Nobody there even considers that their automation could make mistakes, so why have any way of contacting a real person there that could do anything? Seriously I mean it. That's the only explanation I can come up with after having read countless articles about how google locked down people's gmail for "suspicious activity" and made it impossible to reactivate, or contact anyone who could even provide any information about what exactly is wrong. All the stories about YouTube's inconsistent flagging of videos, false copyright strikes and no way of getting help. Even big channels that have a dedicated representative get a "sorry can't do anything" in many of those cases. If you ever get fucked over by google your only hope is that you can make a post on some big website that will blow up to the point where google sees it might damage their reputation.

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Wait, our CEO has a vision? Google company culture strongly erodes for two reasons: De-facto retirement of Larry and Sergey and significant deepening of the reporting structure in the last few years (ie endless layers of middle management). Both of these make consistent vision and values much harder to achieve. Recent Googlegeist just reflects that.

Also, Larry and Sergey got obsessed with useless and irrelevant things. (Flying cars? Robot butlers? Airship yachts? Glass?)

Glass was interesting product that died on the hands of outrage journalists.

It's possible they Google release another version when technology will be ready (better battery, camera, sound packed into much smaller form & size)

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Google's Achilles heel is search and ad revenue (80%). Which is sad because they've been trying to diversify and find another major source of income for 20 years now. If a better search engine comes along and people switch over, then google won't be able to maintain its empire and it could fold, or how would you like to pay $10 a month for a GMail and Google Maps combo access package? It could happen a lot easier and…

Google diversified its ads revenue, that is still something. Yt, display, gmail, etc.

does gmail actually make money?
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