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People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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Are you aware that buzzfeed actually has a pretty good news section too? It doesnt pay well enough, so they also have the clickbait stuff

BuzzFeed is the site that spread the "piss dossier" nonsense. You can't get much more fake than that without invoking aliens and Elvis.

I couldnt find any article on buzzfeed regarding that, and neither have I followed that dossier so I cannot comment on that.

Mind sending a few links my way?

Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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Study says that damage to the prefrontal cortex in older adults can increase susceptibility to fraud and scams, which may be related to why older people share more fake news. [source] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4971060/

You can search for J. Rogan with Robert Sapolsky podcast where doc said that either prefrontal or orbitofrontal cortex finishes developing at ~25 years old, so brain can learn about environment and extrapolate accumulated experience later throughout life. I think age bias is not appropriate, because youngsters could consume propaganda with memes, feeds and games as well, just through the different medium. What matter…

Admittedly, there is definitely a precedent for youngsters who fall for fake news. I am reminded that a number of under-65s thought they could charge their iPhone in a household microwave, even though you would think that common sense would dictate otherwise.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2768976/Emergency-s...

Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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This article is a perfect example of the incredibly sloppy and biased thinking that happens in media and which is part of the very problem it talks about. Fake news first and formost is a clickbait scam to get advertising dollars, NOT a political propaganda approach and this tendency to keep using it as if it's an actual political issue is really absurd and itself an example of what is probably more an example of slo…

You're not accounting for internal and external to the US attempts to manipulate our democracy via social media. The IRA created fake accounts to encourage tribalism and partisan thinking. It's not new for Americans or companies as well, there's been manipulating the web with bots and disinformation ourselves for years. To say it's purely clickbait is to ignore a large amount of evidence that it's also politically mo…

I didn't say it's purely clickbait I said it mostly clickbait which it is and the reason why it's being used as much as it is.

Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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Anecdotal evidence: I remember how my 65 years old dad changed from a large-minded, world-traveling retired professor to an avid consumer of fake news in the span of fewer than two years. Yes, it was a shock, but most of all I am mortified that this could happen to me as well when I get to his age.

Does he live alone? I'm convinced that plays a large factor.

Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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Anecdotal evidence: I remember how my 65 years old dad changed from a large-minded, world-traveling retired professor to an avid consumer of fake news in the span of fewer than two years. Yes, it was a shock, but most of all I am mortified that this could happen to me as well when I get to his age.

There is some actual biology behind this. Many of the natal symptoms of aging promote "fake news" and what are generally considered "right wing" views. As one ages one's memory begins to slip. More recent memories slip first. So in the hard drive of one's mind, the past seems better and more reliable than the present. The nurse who visits once a week is a perpetual stranger not to be trusted. And if she speaks a strange language...

Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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My dad was similar, but he thought it was all a joke. He thought sites like rense and infowars were today's equivalent of the counterculture political satire from when he was young. He knew there were people on those sites who weren't in on the joke, and people with mental illness, but I think he thought it was maybe 5% or 10%, and it just added to the fun for him. He got reverse-pwned by Poe's Law. Yet still he foun…

I'vs seen this proclivity in a lot of older military guys. Korea and Vietnam vets. They just split their sides laughing at this stuff. Also, at least in the case of my father and uncle, the fact that people believe a lot of this stuff is what makes it all funny. I honestly don't believe they would be at all interested if no one believed it. I wonder if your dad is ex-military? Of course, all of that's older enlisted…

I'm not ex military but I find Alex Jones legitimately hilarious and I'm astonished people take him seriously. Before I left fb I had an ex-Marine old friend from elementary school on my list and he shared conspiracy memes relentlessly, very much mirroring the stuff Russia used in the 2016 election meddling. He actually believed it. I gave up trying to debunk it and played along.

Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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It's not digital literacy, it's literacy.

Older people grew up believing in religion, in fact they could be beaten mercilessly if they expressed doubt.

They also grew up during one of the most intense ideological struggles in political history.

And on top of that they were the first generation exposed to mass media, in an era where there were still relatively few alternative information sources.

Basically they were ill prepared to think critically, and still are.

Sorry. I love my dad but he came out a Putin fan a while back. He also thought he'd won the lottery which he'd never entered.

Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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Anecdotal evidence: I remember how my 65 years old dad changed from a large-minded, world-traveling retired professor to an avid consumer of fake news in the span of fewer than two years. Yes, it was a shock, but most of all I am mortified that this could happen to me as well when I get to his age.

I used to read the national enquirer (UFOs, Bigfoot!) religiously as a kid. I suspect there is something that appeals to people at certain stages in life. Most likely, as you get older/younger you desire stimulation. In mid-life, you're probably over-stimulated.

Yup. In middle school a buddy of mine and I used to read all that stuff. Lots of fun.

Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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Thanks! Buzfeed believes in far-left progressive views and is not known for objective reporting, so using this as a primary source for classifications of fake news would predetermine this outcome. With this in mind I think we can't trust the studys conclusion.

old misogynists sharing "wikileaks CONFIRMS hillary sold weapons to ISIS!!!!" being fake news is absolutely a far-left take on reality, hahaha. how are you so bad at this.

I do disagree with the lazy "Buzzfeed is left wing therefore your result are automatically invalid" conclusion of the poster. :)

But I do believe that bias could be a genuine concern here.

Both the Buzzfeed article and the Stanford article (https://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/fakenews.pdf) seems to focus strictly on political fake news.

But Donald Trump fake news is not the only fake news out there.

Given that Donald Trump supporter demographics lean older, I am wondering if an exclusive focus on political fake news (most of which was indeed leaning in the Donald Trump direction) is skewing the results towards the conclusion that people older than 65 share the most fake news.

Would the study look differently if they included sites propagating non-political fake news -- such as celebrity oriented fake news or health woo?

In another case -- Russian disinformation campaigns -- it's well known that they targeted pretty much all sides with divisive Facebook ads on contentious issues or identity politics. Some of the ads certainly are in the "fake news" category (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/business/russia...). The question I would have is whether the same demographics would apply to identity or issues related fake news. I'm not certain here.

It's possible that one can include the above data points and still draw the conclusion; in a tangentially related case, age is one of the factors in other forms of susceptibility to fraud (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3916958/), so it's possible that age is a factor in not recognizing fake news as easily.

But until then, while the article does make a good case that people older than 65 share the most fake pro-Donald Trump news, I'm not sure I can apply that conclusion to other forms of fake news yet.

Re: People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

BuzzFeed is the site that spread the "piss dossier" nonsense. You can't get much more fake than that without invoking aliens and Elvis.

I couldnt find any article on buzzfeed regarding that, and neither have I followed that dossier so I cannot comment on that. Mind sending a few links my way?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier#P...
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