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Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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> the long-term societal tradeoff of not developing addictive mental candy Along with React, GraphQL and a bunch of other technologies with various degrees of popularity https://opensource.fb.com Along with various startups building around the projects incubated at Facebook - Asana, Interana, Phacility, Qubole, etc.

React + GraphQL Where B is the sum of the set consisting of: -Breaking democracy in the US and the UK by being _the_ platform for disinformation. -Disinformation assisting genocide in Myanmar. -Use correlating strongly with poor mental health -Manipulating behaviour to encourage poor attention spans for the sake of ad-clicking -Constantly violating basic standards of privacy -(I could go on..) Oh wait, excuse my arit…

> Breaking democracy in the US and the UK by being _the_ platform for disinformation.

Blaming facebook for "breaking" democracy in the US and the UK is ridiculous. I can't understand how this can continue being a claim remotely considered valid. I agree (or may agree, at least in part) on some of the other points, but not on this.

Claiming that Trump won just because of the russians putting ads on facebook is at least naive - and ignores the fears/actual issues a very big* part of the US population experience daily. Isn't failing public schooling a problem there also? Does that give us citizen more or less prepared to actually participate in democracy?

Politicians (of all sides) in the UK have accused the EU of being the root of all evil since they "joined", again and again and again: you lost your job? Blame the EU! We can't cut taxes? Blame the EU! You really want to blame facebook and NOT the politicians themselves because people voted for brexit?

If the Russians tried to manipulate (and for sure they did, oh gosh, I'm pretty sure the US and the EU states never do - or did - anything to manipulate elections abroad! Evil Putin, why you do this to us? :cry:) we rolled out the red carpet for them!

Democracy was broken because actual journalists did not do their job. Stop doing what they (may) want you to do, using social media as a scapegoat for their own (willing, sometimes, for sure, at least if you read what Chomsky has to say) MASSIVE failure of being the "champions of truth" they claim (and blindly believe - I worked on somewhat close contact with them for years, I've seen that) to be.

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What, exactly, is wrong with the expectation that people make senior level eventually? What exactly is wrong with being able to work at any time? I worked there for years, and if I was landing code at 12am, it was because I was excited about what I was doing. It was wonderful being able to work with people from all over the world on high-impact projects, and fixing important bugs was definitely high-impact. People wh…

"landing code at 12am, it was because I was excited about what I was doing" I can't believe people put up with this. I really hope you got paid for that time.

Societal pressure to do everything it takes to get rich and succeed is a serious drug. I also contribute some of it in cases like this to the fact that some programmers are unfortunately just not well adjusted.

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Fun fact: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/09/security-update/ was published at 16:42:44. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/technology/facebook-hack-... was published at 16:45:41. NYT writes fast :)

"NYT writes fast :)" Facebook wrote it. They called their friend at NYT and handed over the article - then mentioned they would be sharing it with other outlets later. [just my guess].

Pre-disclosing news to publications is a standard affair in business and politics. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

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I'm glad this doesn't affect me since I don't use Facebook. Oh, wait, it doesn't matter since they move heaven and earth to collect and store my data anyway, and of course I can't get them to delete it. Seriously, fuck Facebook.

Random question - is there a way to naturalize in the EU and use GDPR to ask Facebook to remove your data? (For example an Estonian digital citizenship) I might be way way off and I am (obviously) not a lawyer but interested in material about this.

Everyone living in EU (you don't need to be a citizen) is a "data subject" in the GDPR sense. But the Estonian e-residents ...that is a good question.

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I have some friends who were new grads and put on the security team. My first thought was, why put new grads on the security team? Do they really have the experience to protect this sort of data?

How else do you suggest would people who don't have experience gather it?

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Looks like they're clearing out compromised sessions. https://twitter.com/facebook/status/1045722820582432768 I was logged out of Facebook about 30 minutes ago.

Why not just clear out 100% of sessions?

Because they're too smart to have missed any. They hire only the best and wouldn't miss something like this.

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"NYT writes fast :)" Facebook wrote it. They called their friend at NYT and handed over the article - then mentioned they would be sharing it with other outlets later. [just my guess].

Pre-disclosing news to publications is a standard affair in business and politics. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

I'm also surprised that many supposedly educated people on HackerNews don't seem to know these things.

Noam Chomsky wrote Manufacturing Consent decades ago.

Read, you fools!

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"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman [0] [0] https://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/51-l/docs/roge...

Oh wow, I'm saving this. If I ever have a company with a physical office this goes on the wall. FWIW though, investors can be fooled.

It's not just the quote, the whole appendix ought to be taught to every engineer (and manager, and investor), and deserves to be hanging on the wall in many places.
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