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Re: EU to move ahead with cultural quotas for streaming services

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Post by noobermin »

sannee wrote: post #229
hangonhn wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure it's entirely wrong when you have a heavyweight like the US/Hollywood that dominates the global entertainment industry. I don't know about you but the content coming out of Hollywood is depressingly dumb. This may be a hamfisted attempt at addressing that but the problem remains. The loudest voice in the room is US/Hollywood. Entertainment is often our "first contact" with ideas beyond our normal areas o…

EU is slowly cutting away sovereignity of its member states with regulations such as these. This is a very touchy subject for some of the european nations and "Hollywood production is dumb" is just an extremely stupid thing to bicker over at an international level. All it does is increasing political tension until another brexit happens.

Sovereignty? By allowing the US to be the major cultural influence? Really?

Re: EU to move ahead with cultural quotas for streaming services

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Post by noobermin »

tomjen3 wrote: post #147
michaelt wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Protectionism is bad in all its forms. I read a book once that made an interesting point: 1. English-language films make more money than French-language films because there are more English speakers than French speakers. 2. Because of this, an English-language film can profitably have a bigger budget, allowing better production values. 3. Once a film has been produced, the rights will get sold in every foreign market…

The obvious solution is to make a movie in France in English.

Helps, but language has its own nuances that could be lost.

Re: EU to move ahead with cultural quotas for streaming services

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Post by newyankee »

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #206
jrockway wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the law mandate that the movies be good? Because you can just set up a webcam, chunk it into 2 hour pieces, and call it a movie.

Um. That's already a part of the television culture in some places. Norway has slow tv. I don't watch it, but some folks out there do. https://www.visitnorway.com/media/news-from-norway/finally-t...

Ideal place for Test cricket ! For those who do not know it is a sport played over 5 days , 7 hours of play each day.

Re: EU to move ahead with cultural quotas for streaming services

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Post by cliffordthedog »

phyller wrote: post #7

> The proposals will require that streaming services give over at least 30% of their on-demand catalogues to original productions made in each EU country where a service is provided (individual EU Member States could choose to set the content bar even higher, at 40%) 30% for each country seems really high to me. As usual for regulation, there will likely be high unintended consequences. While in the US and elsewhere…

Or they will just buy up a bunch of cheap streaming rights to low budget stuff and older movies. They will the Belgian equivalent of "Who's the boss" or something.

Course that doesn't fit the narrative of "Regulation is bad"

Re: EU to move ahead with cultural quotas for streaming services

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Post by Tomte »

I am regularly defending the EU here on HN, but this is a stupid idea.

I wouldn't argue with a much smaller quota, like half a percent or so, but this is not helpful.

I'd be surprised if this didn't originate in France, they have always been concerned about English influence, and I think they already have such a quota for their radio programmes.

Re: EU to move ahead with cultural quotas for streaming services

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Post by rhapsodic »

cliffordthedog wrote: post #245
phyller wrote: post #7

> The proposals will require that streaming services give over at least 30% of their on-demand catalogues to original productions made in each EU country where a service is provided (individual EU Member States could choose to set the content bar even higher, at 40%) 30% for each country seems really high to me. As usual for regulation, there will likely be high unintended consequences. While in the US and elsewhere…

Or they will just buy up a bunch of cheap streaming rights to low budget stuff and older movies. They will the Belgian equivalent of "Who's the boss" or something. Course that doesn't fit the narrative of "Regulation is bad"

> Or they will just buy up a bunch of cheap streaming rights to low budget stuff and older movies. They will the Belgian equivalent of "Who's the boss" or something.

> Course that doesn't fit the narrative of "Regulation is bad"

I would argue that it does.

Re: EU to move ahead with cultural quotas for streaming services

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Post by [deleted] »

andrewla wrote: post #240
phyller wrote: post #7

> The proposals will require that streaming services give over at least 30% of their on-demand catalogues to original productions made in each EU country where a service is provided (individual EU Member States could choose to set the content bar even higher, at 40%) 30% for each country seems really high to me. As usual for regulation, there will likely be high unintended consequences. While in the US and elsewhere…

To what degree is the regulation about restricting individual's choice vs. forcing corporate compliance? If a European user chooses to access Netflix through a VPN, are they in violation of the regulation, or is the VPN provider, or is Netflix, for not doing sufficient checking? Frankly, it's amazing that so many regional policies, both regulatory (like GDPR) and policy (region encoding) have survived in the modern i…

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Re: EU to move ahead with cultural quotas for streaming services

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Post by bsder »

hangonhn wrote: post #142
sannee wrote: post #118

This is the side of the EU that foreigners usually don't see. This is the reason there are movements for quitting in every member state (with varying levels of success). The isolationism EU is beginning to display is starting to worry even me and the alternative is a bunch of UKIP-like nationalist which I am not really a big fan of.

I'm not sure it's entirely wrong when you have a heavyweight like the US/Hollywood that dominates the global entertainment industry. I don't know about you but the content coming out of Hollywood is depressingly dumb. This may be a hamfisted attempt at addressing that but the problem remains. The loudest voice in the room is US/Hollywood. Entertainment is often our "first contact" with ideas beyond our normal areas o…

> I'm not sure it's entirely wrong when you have a heavyweight like the US/Hollywood that dominates the global entertainment industry.

And it's getting worse.

Hollywood is "pre-sanitizing" its movies for China because of the increasing revenue there from secondary release.

Re: EU to move ahead with cultural quotas for streaming services

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Post by sannee »

noobermin wrote: post #241
sannee wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EU is slowly cutting away sovereignity of its member states with regulations such as these. This is a very touchy subject for some of the european nations and "Hollywood production is dumb" is just an extremely stupid thing to bicker over at an international level. All it does is increasing political tension until another brexit happens.

Sovereignty? By allowing the US to be the major cultural influence? Really?

You are missing the point. Each member nation should decide by itself about how open to outside cultural influences it is.
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