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Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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post #115

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How can Google be sure? They can't, so they can't do it

At least they can put a label like "This site has an agreement with XYZ Music" or "This site received 1000 takedown notices in last year".

So you'd be able to find the best UX sites by looking for the ones with the highest number of takedowns.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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If they labeled them then they would also ha e an obligation to remove them.

Is that true? Just having links and they'd have to remove it? If they're down ranking them that obviously indicates they know what they are already, but they're not removing them.

Well USA have had at least one foreign national extradited for having a webpage with links to what was later deemed to be unlicensed content.

So, such things are clearly on a par with terrorism or murder -- I'm sure they'll be arresting Google execs forthwith. /s

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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post #117

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I don't want to hide my IP address. I'm not paranoid about being found - nothing I do is illegal (I don't download, I watch streams, and that isn't illegal here, only if I downloaded the videos). For me it's only about system security, not legality. The latter would not be helped at all by using a VM.

As you said in another comment you are German and this is a very common false myth in Germany: Streaming pirated content is exactly as illegal as downloading in Germany and also the whole EU. Here is a source: https://www.focus.de/digital/praxistipps/anwalt-zu-eugh-urte...

So all streamed content is illegal in EU? YouTube, Netflix, ...?

How is a user supposed to know, for all anyone visiting a website knows it's licensed.

Anything on Netflix might be unlicensed, I have no way to tell, same with any random site. If I can find it, that means a large media corp can, so surely one must assume if they didn't get it taken down (sites are blocked and taken down all the time, blocked at ISP level) then it must be OK with the large rights holders.

And of course we know that even stuff from MPAA can be copyright infringing. There's no way for users to establish if something is properly licensed because license are secret.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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I had the same problem with an almost automatic !g. A while back i decided to put more effort and try to survive with !so, !gh, !hn, !r, !w, and a couple more depending on the context. DDG may not give exact results in less than a second, but i believe that blindly giving priority to the fastest result is a critical issue, in many areas. For the very niche topics, i basically maintain myself lists of sites. I still u…

"For the very niche topics, i basically maintain myself lists of sites." I have a Google CSE for the sites I have subscribed in RSS reader. It provides results that I could never get with straight Google search. Curious to know what your sources are like if you don't mind?

Well that's more of a manual work than anything else, not optimal in term of speed. Trying to keep following mailing lists diagonally, keep contact with other people in the niche. It eventually leads me to some other new site, mailing lists, blogs, videos. Then i use a bunch of scripts to maintain a todo list, and i'm processing (keep & index/drop) them when the time comes, and it loops.

TBH, i mostly do all of that just because i don't want to be stuck deeper in the Google web, but that's more of a philisophical issue. I could easily live without all the DDG stuff, but not (yet) without all the Google stuff.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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torrentz2.eu is a good way to search for torrents. DMCA compliant, at least on paper so mileage may vary. But it has helped me out many times. Google isn't the internet. Eerily close but not 100%.

I thought it was taken down by "the feds", I assume it's being run by some government agency under direction of media rights holders now? These sites seem to survive for some time playing whackamole, but AFAICT law enforcement got all the long running big sites.

It's curious that, again from what I can tell, such sites often get taken over (not the actual sites but copycat domains that Google serve) as copycats in order to serve malware. But somehow that's preferable (for the government agencies) to hosting inert torrent links.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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we did this 1 month later. No effect. We did a general 301. Not a product specific 301. Mistake?

301 redirects by page for sure 1:1. Plus, How is this linked to shopping carts?

well, website.com/product=11 became website.com/myfavoritejeans

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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As much as I despise multi-billion dollar 'copyright holding' corporations, I feel this is a strategic move by Google to thrust more legitimate channels of media consumption (Netflix, Prime Video, Et al) to the top of the search results page. Having said that, people who actually use torrents regularly know their way around Google and other web-based search engines, and this move, therefore, should have little or no…

The way Google returns results is totally different than 15 ways ago. When it was once algorithmically, impartially sorted, it favorised spreading of information without political or judgemental intents. Now Google, while still not evil, has been forced to censor itself over the years, and is not an impartial research engine anymore. If Google keeps reinforcing the system, who will propose alternatives? Where will we find new ideas?

Edit : To me "piracy" of music was a new idea : free access and distribution of digital contents, because we technologically can, and it doesn't kill anyone

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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301 redirects by page for sure 1:1. Plus, How is this linked to shopping carts?

well, website.com/product=11 became website.com/myfavoritejeans

This is called product pages, cart will be website.com/my-cart or something in the like.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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I use GMail for the stability, longevity and ubiquitous access.

Until they lock your account even if you know the password... Some people are OK with giving their PII like phone numbers to them, then Google is a good choice for them. For me, it is not. Their schizophrenic registration system that SOMETIMES demands your phone number was the last straw.

Free Gmail or paid? I use both, the paid for important things.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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post #124

I remember I used to do filetype searches for mp3, mp4, flac, etc... and get all sorts of good stuff. I would find ftp servers with thousands of songs and just download anything interesting. I feel like the Google search algorithm peaked many years ago and has gradually been neutered by all sorts of special interest groups who have no doubt harassed Google with legal threats. Google probably doesn't want to censor re…

Is it that these results no longer show up or that we need to go to something like page 15 to see them?
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