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I wonder what impact, if any, the Kate Spade suicide had on his decision. Sometimes I wonder if people suffering from depression observe the attention people who have committed suicide recently receive and if it's influences their decision in any way. I imagine someone feeling really down right now see's all the love and empathy Bourdain is receiving post posthumously, and it could perhaps incentivize them to make th…

I read somewhere that suicide headlines increase the probability of plain crashes.

Robert Cialdini talks about this in his book "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion."

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There is an excellent documentary called "The Bridge" about people committing suicide by jumping off of the golden gate bridge in SF. Given the height of the bridge, it takes 4 seconds before you hit the water, and some people survive it. They had interviews with people that survived it -- and they basically all said that as soon as they let go, they realized it was a mistake. That all of their problems were solvable…

> They had interviews with people that survived it -- and they basically all said that as soon as they let go, they realized it was a mistake. That all of their problems were solvable, except for the one they just made. That fails to explain those who attempt suicide more than once. EDIT: I found an informal estimate from this article ( http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/25/in-defense-of-psych-tre... ) by psychiatrist…

The same reason that drug addicts who have been sober for long periods of time regularly relapse. Many people have more than one moment of weakness or crisis in their lives

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I’m also wary of accepting controversial opinions at face value, and fully support your skepticism here. She’s not my favorite messenger, either. I don’t think ad-hominem attacks are fair, though. The article is full of references to evidence outlining her position. Do you have any critique of her arguments you can share?

Calling out why a doctor is a quack is not an ad hominem when questioning their qualifications as a medical reference.

Yes, but only if evidence is provided to justify calling the doctor a quack.

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I myself would rather focus the discussion on why people want to kill themselves in the first place and not divulge into a convo about whether not mommy government should or should not allow us to have guns.

Putting an important decision such as ending ones life behind a single point-and-click action is really bad UX. There should at least be a number of "Are you sure?" prompts and two factor authentication as a bare minimum.

But now you are optimizing for and donating resources to the "bad UX" instead of focusing energy where it matters.

Focus on why users want to delete their account and not on how easy it is to do so!

Re: Anthony Bourdain has died

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I remember watching Robin Williams perform ~2009. He was hilarious and positive on stage at Cobb. After the show he hung out with us and Bing Gordon (his friend). His entire demeanor changed. Unable to smile, look people in the eyes, and holding back tears. People thought he would be funny off stage but he just was extremely anxious and wanted to leave asap. Anyhow, I feel like people (esp. famous people) hide the th…

I'm not sure you should tie Robin William's continual mental problems with his suicide. After he died, they discovered he had a neurodegenerative disease, and it was causing serious problems with his life (disorientation, etc). He never knew what was causing it, but he knew things were very wrong and getting worse. Had he not committed suicide, he wouldn't have had long to live anyway, and would have had a horrible existence.

He did have mental issues for much of his life, but in the end it was likely his physical condition and not his mental issues that led him to suicide.

It's not clear if he had this condition in 2009 - he might have, but we don't know.

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I love Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain — I’ve always wanted to become a chef because of that book.

Otherwise, somehow, and I may be wrong, I think suicide might be deep rooted to our toxic: media, culture, attachments, conditioning, etc. It does sound a bit wrong to say. It might because I’m in my early twenties and still live with my parents and have lots of time to think but I’m becoming more aware of how, maybe, be of the world not in the world is so important. It seems like escapism but again, these days: I’m not reading the news as much or partaking in entertainment especially the internet, I’m spending more time alone in solitude, watching the evening sky, I’m going on walks, I’m deciding what has meaning and what does not, I’m just living but with no fuss, noise, or ego. Some may think it’s a boring way to live but it may be a true way to live, I think. It’s almost as I live in my own bubble and I’m not sure if that’s a right thing to do or not.

To the point, suicide and depression are terrible and I think, in modern day, we have to have a strong inner self to conquer it or else we get sucked in. It also reminds me of Thoreau’s Walden or Wallace’s understanding of American culture.

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>, I can only hope that people as a whole start seeing it as a complex issue and the stigma of mental issues and stress can lessen so that people can get help Possibly inappropriate - but why do people immediately link suicide and mental illness? Why do we stand in judgement declaring it wrong to decide ones own fate? Am I not the master of my own existence and do I not have the right to make a decision on it without…

Medically-assisted suicide is a thing with professional support and evaluations and guidance, in regions where it’s defined and legal. Unassisted suicide is usually assumed to be mental illness based on the circumstances — randomly in a hotel room during a filming does not read as “rationally premeditated after careful consideration and psychological evaluation” to most of us.

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This is a very sad day for me. I have never expressed this to anyone before. Anthony Bourdain was one of my heroes. Anthony changed the way that I view the world and inspired me to explore the world's rich tapestry of life. We have lost someone who truly was a world citizen who built the culture that "different" could be good. The man's struggles through addiction and journey to peak physical fitness in his late 50s…

Same. He was a hero to me as well. I'm devastated

Re: Anthony Bourdain has died

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I love Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain — I’ve always wanted to become a chef because of that book. Otherwise, somehow, and I may be wrong, I think suicide might be deep rooted to our toxic: media, culture, attachments, conditioning, etc. It does sound a bit wrong to say. It might because I’m in my early twenties and still live with my parents and have lots of time to think but I’m becoming more aware of how,…

I found the best summation in one of the most unlikely places, the show Nip/Tuck: "I think that if a person is in a great deal of pain, physical or spiritual, and they've exhausted all their options, I wouldn't judge them for it. I'd say a silent prayer and hope death brought them the peace of mind life never could give them."

Re: Anthony Bourdain has died

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>, I can only hope that people as a whole start seeing it as a complex issue and the stigma of mental issues and stress can lessen so that people can get help Possibly inappropriate - but why do people immediately link suicide and mental illness? Why do we stand in judgement declaring it wrong to decide ones own fate? Am I not the master of my own existence and do I not have the right to make a decision on it without…

Suicide is inherently a selfish act, and I think that’s where the perception of it being “wrong” comes from. Sure you have the right to decide your own fate, but you should consider that you affect other people. In taking your own life you’re also fucking up the life of everyone who cares about you, forcing them into a state of grief and possibly causing them to blame themselves for what was ultimately a selfish act…

You're telling someone who finds their life to be so unendurable that they need to be more considerate? Hell yeah it's selfish. And for a lot of people that do it, it's one of the few times they've done something for themselves. Everybody should have a right to die, and in a world where lives are constantly getting longer and society more oppressive with its demands, the right to die should be fundamental.
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