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Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Two reasons why Reddit isn't "digg-ing" their own grave right now: 1. This change is much smaller and less destructive than digg's big change (although the long term effects can be just as destructive). 2. When Digg's redesign caused an exodus, Reddit was extremely well known as "that ugly digg clone" and "this digg link was on Reddit yesterday". Reddit doesn't have a well known established "number two" the way digg…

that is raddle.me BTW

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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From reading Reddit threads about the redesign: pretty much everyone hates it, especially Reddit’s most passionate users, who have been very articulate, consistent, and aligned about exactly what they don’t like, and Reddit just keeps brushing them off and dismissing their point of view. Maybe the purpose of the redesign is something like monetization? Or maybe they are just out of touch and by the time they really u…

I remember the Slashdot redesign and the Fark redesign too, and now this one. The general pattern is the site owners’ unwavering certainty that the redesign is great and everyone is wrong, in the face of vocal criticism from users. Remember “You’ll get over it”?

EDIT: I’d love to see actual measured metrics published showing a particular design change actually making sense. Is the new one faster for any particular task? Does it generate more signups? More revenue? Not saying these guys didn’t measure this, but publishing the results would be fascinating.

Is there an example of a site who rolled out a big redesign and then actually reversed course based on end user feedback?

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #234

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Of course it's about monetization. There's a difference between how Reddit-the-company (and its investors) view the site, and how its users do. It's like with cafés - visitors likes them quiet, and would very much enjoy having an electrical outlet near the table (to charge up phone) and even free Wi-Fi. But cafés aren't in business of making peoples' life better and more enjoyable, they're in business of selling coff…

Genuinely interested to know where in the world the cafes are like that.

I’m in the Midwest. All of them do something to discourage staying all day. Most don’t have many seats with access to electrical. WiFi is restricted to a couple hours per session and not any faster than it needs to be. Most of them are echoey on purpose. It’s been several years since one tried to make bringing a computer at all difficult, though. I credit this to the re-emergence of Dunkin Donuts in our area, reducing the gain from competing for customers without much time for coffee.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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As long as redditors can choose between the designs I don't see a problem. Once this choice is removed though they've veered in to Digg territory. All the power users and influencers will use the old design because they're used to it. I can see why reddit wants a redesign -- reddit is ugly but people are used to it that way and grew to like it. The redesign is for new users. Reddit has already been down this path wit…

> As long as redditors can choose between the designs I don't see a problem.

Even if they intend to keep the old design available forever (very unlikely), it means that they now have the same number of developers supporting twice as much UI. So obviously that means they will not be able to deliver bug fixes as rapidly, etc.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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She basically opened the floodgates for banning subreddits Reddit doesn't like. Up until the ban of fatpeoplehate, the only subreddits that would get banned were CP related or based around doxing. Now pretty much anything is on the table.

>Now pretty much anything is on the table. Not really. The_Donald hasn't been banned even though Reddit doesn't like it. They have kind of hidden it though.

They shut down a huge number of firearm/alchohol/tobacco related subreddits in the last month, many of which were very mature and welcoming communities, without any warning they they were going to do this to the moderators.

Places like r/beerswap and r/pipetobaccomarket, which allowed users to swap product unavailable in their local areas.

Now the moderators of big subreddits like r/pipetobacco are organizing alternative websites for their users to go to, before the inevitably get banned without warning for not aligning with Reddit's new image.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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As long as redditors can choose between the designs I don't see a problem. Once this choice is removed though they've veered in to Digg territory. All the power users and influencers will use the old design because they're used to it. I can see why reddit wants a redesign -- reddit is ugly but people are used to it that way and grew to like it. The redesign is for new users. Reddit has already been down this path wit…

> The redesign is for new users And I suspect bigger, more visible ads/paid content

They could have made the ads more visible without adding a million frameworks.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #207

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Hit https://old.reddit.com Unfortunately intra-reddit links cause all the usual problems. But yes, mobile behaviour is rage-inducing.

You can ask to always recieve the desktop website via the hamburger menu. Really the best option IMO.

You've got to:

1. Click though the Mobile nag overly.

2. Turn off the Mobile nag, or you'll see it again.

3. Specify "desktop" via, for the second time, the motherfucking hamburger.

That is: this is what I'm doing. Every. Goddamned. Time. It's motherfucking rage inducing. I've mentioned this more than once at Reddit.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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It's 2018 and web developers are still not competent enough to build simple websites (blogs, news, reddit) without forcing visitors to use JS. JS is the technology responsible for most of the malware infections and spyware ad-tracking. It's not like people disable it just to piss off developers, there are very good reasons to turn it off.

> most of the malware infections Can you give a source for that? I keep asking for it and never had any good response. The best I have found is that it helps show phishing. A link that said "Install me" and trigger the download of an executable when you click on it doesn't make HTML responsible for malware infections.

https://labsblog.f-secure.com/2016/04/28/browser-and-email-t...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=javascript+malware+vector&atb=v64-...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=javascript%20malware%20...

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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You're thinking as a developer and not as a business. A website that works perfectly well for 99% of visitors and adds the pizazz to keep them on the site is the goal.

Complaining about decisions like these is a form of market pressure. A weak one, but still within the rules of the business game.

Correct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit,_Voice,_and_Loyalty

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #181

I don't get it. What exactly is changing? From the screenshots from the reddit post about it, it looks.... like reddit. There's posts and the posts have upvote/downvote buttons, and there's a link to the comments that shows how many there are. Am I missing something? The OP article doesn't actually have any screenshots of changes, and I made it several paragraphs into the article still not understanding what is chang…

You should be able to interact with the redesign directly at https://new.reddit.com . The main complaints I've seen leveled at the redesign are: user profiles becoming more like Facebook profiles, the new chat functionality missing core features, and the newly created "best" ranking becoming the default.

"Best" has been the default comment ranking for years. I'm not surprised that it eventually worked its way into the front page posts.

How it differs from "Hot" though is not clear to me. Maybe they try harder to show you fresh posts.

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