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Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by echlebek »

dangrossman wrote: post #199

I regret buying a maxed out XPS 13 a year and a half ago. My list of problems: * Coil whine * Noisy fans * Heat issues * USB-C port has a bad pin (only works in one orientation with pressure) * Charging port inconsistently charges * Bad cell in the battery, so it suddenly shuts off without warning when on battery The charging issues started just around the 12 month mark, so I quickly sent to a repair center under war…

I bought an XPS 15, also maxed out, years ago and regretted it also. I had all the power problems you mention, except the random shutoffs.

The machine was not really usable for professional work.

I now have a Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th gen. It has no major issues and works reliably, even with Linux as the primary OS. Granted, it was more expensive, but well worth the purchase price.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by scns »

torgard wrote: post #235
weego wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think his primary goal is to mention system76 much as possible while pouring scorn on dell

Lol, scorn, that's a big word. I dislike System76 because they refuse to support European layouts. US only. I am very bitter about it. I dislike most laptop manufacturers of this day, because they all either: * Only make touch-screens in 4K * Don't let you upgrade your RAM. * Only sell with Windows bundled. Not paying for Windows, no thanks Dell satisfied only one of those criteria. They are very high in my book. In…

Check out tuxedocomputers, you can get a danish or swedish layout and configure the laptops to your liking. They use the same barebones System76 uses.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by kbutler »

socceroos wrote: post #232
kbutler wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try pressing space (or page down on keyboards with pg down).

Spacebar/pgdwn is a harsh context break for me. There's no continuity like a book or touch screen

> harsh context break for me. There's no continuity like a book

more than a page turn?

I find the continual swiping distracting. And it's a much more complex motion (akin to a page turn) and must be done more frequently than paing. A tap of the space bar is about the simplest motion, and (except in cases of bad page design) gives a clean "start at top for next page" rather than trying to figure out where on the screen your next line is.

Preferences vary, obviously.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by mancerayder »

cryptoz wrote: post #88

I ordered a Dell XPS 13 Developer edition in 2013. I picked Ubuntu Linux and the email confirmation said Ubuntu on it. Wait a week, it arrives, it runs Windows. Ugh. I was so confident that we had moved past it being this hard to buy a linux laptop, in 2013, but I guess not. All of my friends made fun of me for trying to buy a linux laptop. I ended up failing as hard as possible, being out thousands of dollars while…

Maybe I'm missing something, but if they sent you an Ubuntu-compatible laptop and just forgot to install Ubuntu on it, can't you do that yourself?

It's not the installation by the vendor that makes the Ubuntu support novel, it's the hardware selection and official support, right?

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by torgard »

scns wrote: post #243
torgard wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol, scorn, that's a big word. I dislike System76 because they refuse to support European layouts. US only. I am very bitter about it. I dislike most laptop manufacturers of this day, because they all either: * Only make touch-screens in 4K * Don't let you upgrade your RAM. * Only sell with Windows bundled. Not paying for Windows, no thanks Dell satisfied only one of those criteria. They are very high in my book. In…

Check out tuxedocomputers, you can get a danish or swedish layout and configure the laptops to your liking. They use the same barebones System76 uses.

Thanks, will do

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by pcurve »

echlebek wrote: post #241
dangrossman wrote: post #199

I regret buying a maxed out XPS 13 a year and a half ago. My list of problems: * Coil whine * Noisy fans * Heat issues * USB-C port has a bad pin (only works in one orientation with pressure) * Charging port inconsistently charges * Bad cell in the battery, so it suddenly shuts off without warning when on battery The charging issues started just around the 12 month mark, so I quickly sent to a repair center under war…

I bought an XPS 15, also maxed out, years ago and regretted it also. I had all the power problems you mention, except the random shutoffs. The machine was not really usable for professional work. I now have a Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th gen. It has no major issues and works reliably, even with Linux as the primary OS. Granted, it was more expensive, but well worth the purchase price.

Having experienced a lot of laptop over the years, higher end Thinkpad models are the most reliable. It's disappointing to hear even expensive XPS models are experiencing them same coil whine and battery issues my old Dell laptop had years ago.

Thinkpad also appears to use long lasting batteries that hold charge well. I've had 2 think pads, each 6+ years. They still hold battery for hours and hours.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by lowbloodsugar »

dangrossman wrote: post #199

I regret buying a maxed out XPS 13 a year and a half ago. My list of problems: * Coil whine * Noisy fans * Heat issues * USB-C port has a bad pin (only works in one orientation with pressure) * Charging port inconsistently charges * Bad cell in the battery, so it suddenly shuts off without warning when on battery The charging issues started just around the 12 month mark, so I quickly sent to a repair center under war…

I have only great stories about Dell Laptops with the bullet-proof extended warranties. But I have those stories because I've needed the extended warranty. Is the computer still worth it for $200+ more? Mine was.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by Mithaldu »

barton808 wrote: post #222
dangrossman wrote: post #199

I regret buying a maxed out XPS 13 a year and a half ago. My list of problems: * Coil whine * Noisy fans * Heat issues * USB-C port has a bad pin (only works in one orientation with pressure) * Charging port inconsistently charges * Bad cell in the battery, so it suddenly shuts off without warning when on battery The charging issues started just around the 12 month mark, so I quickly sent to a repair center under war…

Dan, I apologize for your experience. If you ever run into something like this again, besides contacting support directly, you can ping @dellcarespro on twitter and, if its related to the developer edition or project Sputnik you can loop me in @barton808. thanks!

Would you follow up on the issue he had if he provided you with the order details and repair communication? There should be a good chance of there being a paper trail to follow and a mismatch between communication to customer and repair hardware actually used, no?

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by metaphor »

dangrossman wrote: post #199

I regret buying a maxed out XPS 13 a year and a half ago. My list of problems: * Coil whine * Noisy fans * Heat issues * USB-C port has a bad pin (only works in one orientation with pressure) * Charging port inconsistently charges * Bad cell in the battery, so it suddenly shuts off without warning when on battery The charging issues started just around the 12 month mark, so I quickly sent to a repair center under war…

> I do also recommend the touchscreen.

Care to share your usecase(s) that drive why you'd recommend the touchscreen?

On the plus side, I would imagine higher resolution translates to crisper text.

But, at the moment, I couldn't justify it to myself for several reasons:

1. Perceived negative impact on battery uptime

2. Screen wobble and fingerprints on touch

3. $350 premium over equivalent non-touch spec

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