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Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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My 11 month old already sees my iPhone as a threat and goes for it with his teeth whenever he sees me using it. Or he just wants to play with it himself; at anyrate it is very difficult to use my phone around him now.

I think you are making a joke but it is the latter case. He see you using it so he knows it must be important! and his primary tool for figuring out the world is his mouth!

I actually think it might be the former. There's a famous study where parents put on a completely flat face for a few minutes and denied their infants any attention. The babies reacted extremely poorly. I wish I could remember the name of the effect & the study so I could link it but the name totally escapes me

Anyway, point being, they did the same study but with parents using smartphones, and babies reacted in exactly the same fashion (distress)

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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post #240

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This. My dad worked 70 hours a week and travelled for work 30% of the time growing up, but we never felt “he was never around” because he made it to graduation events and little league and called us every day after school.

Things like frequent phone calls seen inconsequential, but: 1) They take significant dedication and scheduling on the part of the parent(s) and, 2) Have an outsize impact on the perception of your dependability. Huge from a kid's perspective.

This is true not just from a kid's perspective too :)

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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I’m definitely not an expert here but isn’t less time with parents a characteristic of the Industrial Age? Before that when movement across jobs was fairly static I believe the family craft would be passed down with the parents as teachers. I could be totally off the mark here but would definitely like to know more

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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post #93

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The point is, only angry and negative people voice their opinions and positively minded people don't. If you look at threads about something else, (say economy or politics) there are typically both optimostic and pessimistic people and even some discussions between those groups. When it comes to parenting and children, positive opinions are rarely heard.

Honestly, if you want to make a point, you should work on the way you phrase it. > only angry and negative voice their opinions i.e. bad people > positively minded i.e. good people I know you probably didn't think about it that much. Personally, I could start a rant about toxic culture now, but I'll leave it at that. If you don't want to create an aggressive response, maybe refrain from calling people that disagree w…

Wow, you completely redefine what they're saying and then attack your own redefinition.

"People that are happy about the way something is, are less likely to complain about it."

This isn't even what OP was arguing. It's more along the line of "People that are happy are less likely to voice that satisfaction than people that are unhappy are likely to voice their dissatisfaction".

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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> One analysis of 11 rich countries estimates that the average mother spent 54 minutes a day caring for children in 1965 but 104 minutes in 2012. Men do less than women, but far more than men in the past: their child-caring time has jumped from 16 minutes a day to 59. I spend 100+ minutes every day changing diapers. Actually that's not true, most of my time is spent trying to put the stupid newborn to go to sleep. I…

I'd recommend a Swingomatic...but they don't make them any more. This is about the same thing: https://www.amazon.com/Graco-Slim-Spaces-Compact-Swing/dp/B0...

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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post #240

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Things like frequent phone calls seen inconsequential, but: 1) They take significant dedication and scheduling on the part of the parent(s) and, 2) Have an outsize impact on the perception of your dependability. Huge from a kid's perspective.

This is true not just from a kid's perspective too :)

Works well for aging parents!

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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post #85

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> A lot of male comedians transition to family jokes after having children. "dadmedians" Your kids will love hearing that about their dad, until they are older anyway and start to roll their eyes :)

Haha I mean professional comedians. Also, I took pictures of baby peeing on himself to show to his future dates. Can't wait!

Before you do that, remember that they choose your retirement home.

My father deliberately didn't take those sort of photos for exactly this reason: he knew my mother would use them to humiliate my brother and I as we got older.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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iOS 13 and Android 11 future killer feature: When the user leaves work, turn off all email notifications as well as any notification from a non-family contact (including the addictive red "1" in the corner of app icons on the home screen).

Turn it back on whenever the user is back at work or at 9 on the next weekday.

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