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You Will Not Understand This

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Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by IanCal »

nilved wrote: post #208
IanCal wrote: post #34

> Search quality is no longer a core competency of Google, the Internet’s premiere search engine. For example: Two people type the same search string, each receives different results. Yes, I am aware that this is likewise no accident. This is not an example of low search quality and can easily be the opposite. If I search for ruby gems, I probably want code. If someone else does, they may want actual gems. > The qual…

> If I search for ruby gems, I probably want code. If someone else does, they may want actual gems. So they search for "ruby gems" and you search for "ruby gems code." This nails in OP's point: > Insight: Google does not want you to know or remember. Anything, if at all possible.

No, I search for "ruby gems".

What about that means I don't "know or remember anything"?

Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by fredley »

gre wrote: post #229
fredley wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've quit, but not entirely. I just unfollowed everyone . My newsfeed is blank, it doesn't even have ads amazingly. Without the feed, I still get the upsides of Facebook (I can communicate with people on a platform they almost all use, I can organise events easily), but (along with a suite of tracker-blockers) remove almost all the downsides. https://blog.mamota.net/posts/solving-facebook/

You can use News Feed Eradicator Chrome plugin and Facebook becomes a chat app without having to unfollow everyone. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/news-feed-eradicat...

Doesn't work on mobile. The unfollow method works everywhere.

Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by nilved »

IanCal wrote: post #241
nilved wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If I search for ruby gems, I probably want code. If someone else does, they may want actual gems. So they search for "ruby gems" and you search for "ruby gems code." This nails in OP's point: > Insight: Google does not want you to know or remember. Anything, if at all possible.

No, I search for "ruby gems". What about that means I don't "know or remember anything"?

The second line of your post is answered by the first.

Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by dorian-graph »

kome wrote: post #88

Beautiful! I agree 100% with it. Commercial web sucks, and what it's worse: it's boring and predictable. The resistance has started. So many people share the same feelings, that's why things like the tildeverse (tilde.club, tilde.town, neocities) do exist. Revolution won't use JavaScript.

Thank you for the links to the tildeverse!

Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by ori_b »

busterarm wrote: post #14
xelxebar wrote: post #12

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A couple people have replied about problems setting up private email servers and getting flaggad as spam. I run my own. With SPF, DKIM and DMARC setup properly, I've not noticed anywhere that's flagged me as spam. GMail users certainly receive my emails no problem.

Are you running your own on physical hardware on-premises or in the cloud?

I run eigenstate.org (and the associated emails) using physical hardware in a colo. OpenBSD's OpenSMTPD makes it relatively easy to set up, although simpler spam filtering would be appreciated.

Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by dhimes »

gooseus wrote: post #236
UncleMeat wrote: post #211

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Because it is another premier feature to maintain. Because more buttons mean more people accidentally hit the wrong button and then complain about shitty search results.

A button that appends that querystring parameter to your search query is a "premier feature" that a multi-billion dollar company is hesitant to maintain? They already have a button that would cause far more confusion if accidentally pressed (Feeling Lucky) since it results in a page that isn't a set of google search results. Sorry, gotta say that those are pretty weak counterpoints... I expected something about how G…

I'm with you. I think they don't want that feature used, and having to explain it to the common user is frightening. This is one of the few things on my whiteboard that never gets erased.

I can't guarantee it still works, either.

Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by busterarm »

ori_b wrote: post #245
busterarm wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you running your own on physical hardware on-premises or in the cloud?

I run eigenstate.org (and the associated emails) using physical hardware in a colo. OpenBSD's OpenSMTPD makes it relatively easy to set up, although simpler spam filtering would be appreciated.

Nice to know, thank you. As an OpenBSD user, I've thought about going the OpenSMTPD route for a while now, but I've been debating whether to do that or Mail In A Box.

Have you used MIAB at all?

Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by K2L8M11N2 »

gre wrote: post #229
fredley wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've quit, but not entirely. I just unfollowed everyone . My newsfeed is blank, it doesn't even have ads amazingly. Without the feed, I still get the upsides of Facebook (I can communicate with people on a platform they almost all use, I can organise events easily), but (along with a suite of tracker-blockers) remove almost all the downsides. https://blog.mamota.net/posts/solving-facebook/

You can use News Feed Eradicator Chrome plugin and Facebook becomes a chat app without having to unfollow everyone. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/news-feed-eradicat...

You can visit https://messenger.com for just the chat, without any extensions.

Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by kome »

dorian-graph wrote: post #244
kome wrote: post #88

Beautiful! I agree 100% with it. Commercial web sucks, and what it's worse: it's boring and predictable. The resistance has started. So many people share the same feelings, that's why things like the tildeverse (tilde.club, tilde.town, neocities) do exist. Revolution won't use JavaScript.

Thank you for the links to the tildeverse!

you are welcome!

Re: You Will Not Understand This

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Post by abruzzi »

akerro wrote: post #97
jdietrich wrote: post #36

>Search quality is no longer a core competency of Google, the Internet’s premiere search engine. For example: Two people type the same search string, each receives different results. While I sympathise with the general anti-social-media stance, it's clear from this phrase that OP does not understand the most basic elements of how internet services function at scale. Of course Google serves different results to differ…

>Of course Google serves different results to different users, that's why they're the market leader in search. The entire job of a search engine is to return relevant results yea, yea yea... I moved to DDG when Google stopped returning me relevant results. Not because I'm afraid of Google knowing too much, I mostly search for code/configuration problems. DDG proved to me that it has more relevant and more helpful inf…

I had a similar experience recently. I searched for something, and the results were mostly intro pages or starting "how to do this with xyz" type of pages when I was trying to debug a problem I was having with xyz. So I modified the search to add a couple words to make sure it was obvious that I was looking for help debugging a problem, and the result set on the first page was identical.
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