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First field report of iPhone X

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Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by ASalazarMX »

dntrkv wrote: post #155
jack6e wrote: post #131

Even though the overall tone of this review was upbeat and positive, it seemed that the baseline conclusion was: "hopefully we find a use for the minor iterative improvements that will make this more than just the next release in a series of underwhelming releases." For one of the first, selectively-chosen reviews of what is supposed to be a ground-breaking product, the article essentially told us 1) the pictures loo…

What was so revolutionary about the original iPhone? I don't think anyone could point at any single feature throughout the whole smartphone revolution and claim it was "revolutionary." It was always a combination of features and design decisions that made the phones so easy and pleasant to use. There were many phones before the iPhone that were way more capable, yet nobody talked about them. Siri, TouchID, FaceID, ca…

Before the iPhone, the best smartphones were Symbian or Blackberries. The iPhone was ridiculously better in every aspect.

The market was ripe as people realized they wanted to trade battery life for more powerful devices, after the success of the iPod and the iPaq (not a typo, the PDAs from Compaq/HP).

It was a revolution then, and it happened so fast Nokia and RIM were left in the dust.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by ASalazarMX »

philsnow wrote: post #209
rhino369 wrote: post #186

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iPhone was revolutionary because it went full touch screen and went full browser. The phone as a mini-tablet changed smartphones significantly.

it wasn't just that it was full touch screen. palm pilots were full "touch" screen (or stylus) long before. it was that the things on the screen behaved fluidly when you manipulated them, without lag, allowing you to use the interface _while forgetting that there was an interface there in the first place_. all you have to do to remember what interacting with a device before apple provided a good example is to find a…

"it was that the things on the screen behaved fluidly when you manipulated them, without lag, allowing you to use the interface _while forgetting that there was an interface there in the first place_."

This. Playing solitaire by easily flicking the cards away was magic back then.

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Post by dilap »

valine wrote: post #208
AndrewOMartin wrote: post #190

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"organic objects with shape, rather than just hard, rectangular squares" "all the various status bars will now finally have the same height" Pick one.

Meaning the GPS and phone call background process status bars will no longer be taller than the standard status bar. This caused lots of issues with third party apps whose developers didn’t test the auto layout edge cases.

not even just third party apps, many of apple's as well!

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by ctdonath »

skc wrote: post #12
ddorian43 wrote: post #7

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Maybe he doesn't buy a $800 Android ? And doesn't buy every new release ? There are new $200+ Android phones.

I often wonder what people do with these super expensive phones to be honest. I have a cheap Xiaomi phone and it runs the same apps everyone else does. My guess is that the expensive phones are bought primarily for their cameras. I'm not big into photography but I can see how that makes a stronger argument for the likes of the iPhone X and Note 8 etc.

I, like most people, use my smartphone a LOT. It's worth at least US$1/day, and I'll use it for probably 3 years ... making a top-end iPhone X amortize out to dirt cheap. At that low low price, why not get the best UI/UX I can?

I'll spend more on coffee than I will on an "expensive" phone during the same time.

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Post by earenndil »

CharlesW wrote: post #220
dean wrote: post #149

I keep reading about how the "notch" is ugly and annoying, but "you get used to it". Like sitting behind someone with a big hat in the movie theatre, after awhile, you don't even notice. Personally, I change seats in that scenario. I just find it hard square claims of "the future of the smartphone" with reviews like "you get used to it".

> I keep reading about how the "notch" is ugly and annoying… If you think of it as a "notch", sure. Another way to think of it is that the screen has a little extra space in the form of "ears", used for instruments (time, signal strength) that would otherwise eat screen space used by apps.

This is why I think that screen space shouldn't be useable. It should be reserved by the OS to show the status, have a black background (which would work really well with the OLED), and from an app's perspective the screen is just a rectangle.

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Post by nowherecat »

nowherecat wrote: post #61

I guess that’s as good as you can make the iPhone X appear, without having to be embarrassed about what you are writing. I am tired of seeing one iPhone release after the other, the marketing machinery desperately trying to get people excited to buy buy buy more, while nobody really needs this. I am saying this from an environmental activists perspective and it is very frustrating and upsetting to see so many large c…

It's ridiculous that I am getting downvoted for having a moral compass. For people who are having any questions about this issue or doubt its validity please watch the Documentary "Death by Design".

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Post by zitterbewegung »

ChrisLTD wrote: post #212
zitterbewegung wrote: post #116

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You should go to the store and experience the iPhone X for your self and make that determination . Also factor in that you are buying a 1.0 product.

How so? It's the latest iteration of a product first released 10 years ago.

New case design and screen with Touch ID makes it a 1.0 product (maybe I should say 10.0 product ) I would wait a month to see if there are any glaring issues regardless . I suspect the OLED screen may have the most issues .

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Post by ambivalence »

passivepinetree wrote: post #180
Strom wrote: post #179

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The situation is perhaps even worse on iPhone 6, which I have. It feels like Apple doesn't test iOS on older hardware. For example the camera app has rotation freezing problems [1] half the time I open it. It's not a rare occurance, it's a constant issue. It's not a case of slow hardware either, because there are still plenty of times when everything works smoothly. -- [1] When I rotate the phone, half the UI element…

I'm still clinging to iOS 10 on my plain 6. It sounds like you'd recommend I don't update; is that true?

If you're using Apple CarPlay, don't upgrade (yet?). On iOS 11 it cannot even keep up playing music without glitches. Crashed twice on me when receiving a phone call. Never had those issues on iOS 10.3.

Rebooting helps. Feels like trying to use Windows on a cheap desktop to watch an HD movie in 2001.

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Post by s4vi0r »

themihai wrote: post #230
dpark wrote: post #202

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Citation? I cannot imagine that my years old Nexus 6 has a more recent display than the new iPhone X.

Check the specs. It's AMOLED vs OLED. Also check the ppi, brightness etc. It was so embarrassing to watch the keynote when Phil was explaining that it took longer to upgrade to OLED because they had to perfect the technology. I guess that's why they haven't upgrade Mac Pro line for so long either...same with Mac Mini and 4K on Apple TV..they are perfecting it... The truth is that the old LCD was cheaper and now after…

The issue is/was that Samsung effectively is the only company that makes OLED phone displays, so they'd charge out the ass for one and could always just sell last gen displays to make their new phone more attractive.

Iirc Apple and some other companies threw a bunch of money at LG so they can get in the game as well, which will be nice in the future but atm obviously screen quality is worse and costs are higher due to R&D cost.

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Post by beamatronic »

rz2k wrote: post #222
jpalomaki wrote: post #192

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There's no room for revolution in smartphone space anymore. The market is too competitive and everybody is tracking it too closely. Revolution can take place in overlooked product categories (think tablets when iPad was introduced - I'd claim that was true revolution since it took significant time for the competitors to really catch up with Apple). On one hand this is pretty sad. There's no wow factor, no truly excit…

The next revolution could be in software that is only possible with the power available in the iPhone X, that will be mainstream for other phones in a couple years. I had an app called Vindigo on a Handspring Visor and later a Kyocera 6035 in the early 2000s that gave the location and mapped pretty much every restaurant, bar, and museum in New York long before maps were an obvious part of your phone. I think the poss…

I loved Vindigo! People forget how useful and powerful the Palm devices were. All they really needed was an always-on network connection.
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