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Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by goliatone »

euyyn wrote: post #190
elecbit wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think out of the box. Is moral a law that forbids people speaking? Self-determination is in the human rights and Catalonia has more than 1000 years of history, culture and language. Democracy cannot be illegal, so this banning must be disobbeyed. Without disobbeying, woman and black people would not vote nowadays, so history proves it is a good way to take down immoral legal laws. EDIT: UN experts say that Spain must…

> Spain must respect fundamental rights in Catalonia. Freedom of expression, freedom of press and power separation Spain respects fundamental rights in Catalonia and anywhere else in the country; respecting them is the supreme law of the land. Anyone who violates those rights will have the courts after them the exact same way as the courts are acting against this referendum.

It could be argued that this platonic view is not very factual. If you look at how corruption is dealt with and the reticence to apply the same constitutional laws you can get a sense of how things work. There were numerous members of the royal house we could talk about, or politicians...

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by ohyes »

diggan wrote: post #9
ohyes wrote: post #7

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I'm not an IPFS expert, but my guess is they have the great firewall, so they can MITM every connection and inspect all of the packets for this type of content and do whatever to the originator/packets.

Does the great firewall just happen between outside and inside (Chinese) connections? With IPFS, you could have a direct connection to peers and you could have a direct link (same WiFi for example) where nothing leaves your network when downloading. As long as one peer in the network has a outside connection, all peers could access that content via relay for example.

Sure, but they can easily pressure ISPs, Spain can do that too. The problem is spain has no leverage against outside computers. China has this via great firewall.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by gotbeans »

pipio21 wrote: post #99
mabbo wrote: post #61

I just left Barcelona a couple hours ago, the capital of Catalonia. Everywhere you look, Catalan flags, signs demanding 'democracia', demanding freedom. I'm told this is just normal for the region, but if this is normal then independence is eventual.

Well, it is normal since independentists have controlled Catalunya since 40 years ago. It used to be that 20% of the population was independentist through, now is over 50%. For example, they choosed school principals among independentist so now over 85% of them are Catalan language teachers that tend to be independentist. This way kids could be directed to be independentist too. The same happened with the local media…

> This way kids could be directed to be independentist too.

Lived in Catalonia all my life, never had a teacher tell me any of the biases you are stating.

I ought to think you are the one who was directed to think like that?

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by toyg »

joe_the_user wrote: post #237
justin66 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The NORMAL reaction by the state is to apply it, and stop the Catalan government from breaking it. It's interesting that you think so. I'd say the normal thing to do would be to issue a press release pointing out that the results aren't legally binding under the constitution and whoever wastes government money running a referendum on the thing might be held criminally or civilly liable. Actually trying to STOP the…

This is incorrect. If, for example, the State Of California, in the US, were to organize, without constitutional mandate, an "official" referendum calling for succession, Federal Marshall would be all over that in a blink of an eye. And I'd agree that heavy-handed action gives the Calatan separatists quite a boost ... for the short term. But states don't really have choice about enforcing the law when a significant a…

How do you reconcile that with the Wilson doctrine on self-determination ?

These things are rarely black and white, and laws often lack the necessary flexibility to address them.

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Post by HarfTarf »

kordlessagain wrote: post #220
kilburn wrote: post #2

Author here. I've tried to keep the article as apolitical as possible, while giving some context to provide the setting. Anyway, I'm very interested in knowing if the used crypto is sound or not, and stirring a discussion around possible alternative approaches. Ask me anything if you want to know further!

Thanks for the article. After reading it, I went and added an IPFS node to my Kubernetes deployment on Google Cloud and then mapped the /ipfs and /ipns endpoints through Kong so they would be served by /" rel="nofollow">https://api.wisdom.sh/ / . This effectively gives people yet another domain they can use which doesn't require installing the IPFS client. Any IPFS site wil work through the proxy, but here's the site…

https://ipfs.github.io/public-gateway-checker/ It would be nice to add your gateway to the list.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by HarfTarf »

lottin wrote: post #206
gfiorav wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn’t this the succession war between Habsburg and Borbon dynasties? I’ve seen some depictions in paintings [1] where you can see soldiers from the Habsburg (wearing the Catalan berretinas) porting a Spanish flag... I believe it was more a war for two different models for Spain, not for independence or anything like that. Sounds like revisionism to me. [1] http://www.msde.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2-Embarque-de-…

The war was between European powers and had many ramifications in different places. For Catalonia the net result was that it lost its political institutions and became a province in a centralised state.

https://ipfs.github.io/public-gateway-checker/

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Post by euyyn »

lottin wrote: post #206
gfiorav wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn’t this the succession war between Habsburg and Borbon dynasties? I’ve seen some depictions in paintings [1] where you can see soldiers from the Habsburg (wearing the Catalan berretinas) porting a Spanish flag... I believe it was more a war for two different models for Spain, not for independence or anything like that. Sounds like revisionism to me. [1] http://www.msde.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2-Embarque-de-…

The war was between European powers and had many ramifications in different places. For Catalonia the net result was that it lost its political institutions and became a province in a centralised state.

Out of curiosity, how do the Catalan constitutions Charles promised to uphold compare to the current autonomy?

Also, is it historically accepted that, if Charles had won, he wouldn't have done the same to the other regions with fueros / constitutions?

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by ajnin »

kilburn wrote: post #2

Author here. I've tried to keep the article as apolitical as possible, while giving some context to provide the setting. Anyway, I'm very interested in knowing if the used crypto is sound or not, and stirring a discussion around possible alternative approaches. Ask me anything if you want to know further!

You say "the code recurses a sha256 computation 1714 times to get a password for decryption, and then once more to get the lookup key", however in the code above the search string is computed as var search = sha256(key);, note it's using key and not passkey, which means, assuming that is correct, only one round of sha256, so roughly 1715 times faster to crack.

It seems weird that the sensitive part (ID number + birth date + post code) would be encrypted the most weakly, and the public part (voting station) would be encrypted the most strongly. Maybe I'm reading this wrong or the code author involuntarily made his encryption quite weaker.

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Post by gotbeans »

kilburn wrote: post #20
codewithcheese wrote: post #18

It seems shocking that Spain a member of the EU is resorting to these tactics. Can you discuss some of their justifications for doing so?

The spanish constituion explicitly states that Spain is an indivisible country. Hence, the Constituional Court (that is elected by the parliament) has ruled out that any referendum about independence is illegal. At this point, the government says that both them and the judiciary powers are just defending the democratic rules, and Catalonia's government is the one at fault for all this hassle. The problem is that it i…

I think he's talking about the "how" (blocking internet, policialization) not about the "why".

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Post by plafl »

oh_sigh wrote: post #227
pvaldes wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This analogy is repeated again and again but is a bad example. A divorce is not "a right", is an agreement regulated by law between two previously married people to put a legal end to the relationship. The true fact is that I can't divorce from my wife without her permit and she could not divorce from me without me agreeing to sign the divorce papers. Does not match the case of one part splitting unilaterally. A bett…

Historically, has the federal government pumped more resources into Catalonia than it extracted from it, or the other way around?

Maybe it's not zero-sum
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